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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>, Yao Qi <qiyaoltc@gmail.com>,
	Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	gdb@sourceware.org,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	Alan Hayward <alan.hayward@arm.com>,
	nd@arm.com,	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/29] arm64: Scalable Vector Extension core support
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:10:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161130141011.GM1574@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <583EC488.9010906@arm.com>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:22:32PM +0000, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> On 30/11/16 12:06, Dave Martin wrote:
> > For setcontext/setjmp, we don't save/restore any SVE state due to the
> > caller-save status of SVE, and I would not consider it necessary to
> > save/restore VL itself because of the no-change-on-the-fly policy for
> > this.
> 
> the problem is not changing VL within a thread,
> but that setcontext can resume a context of a
> different thread which had different VL and there
> might be SVE regs spilled on the stack according
> to that.
> 
> (i consider this usage undefined, but at least
> the gccgo runtime does this)

Understood -- which is part of the reason for the argument that although
the kernel may permit different threads to have different VLs, whether
this actually works usefully also depends on your userspace runtime
environment.

This again leads me to the conclusion that the request to create threads
with different VLs within a single process should be explicit, in order
to avoid accidents.

Cheers
---Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-30 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-25 19:39 Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:41 ` [RFC PATCH 16/29] arm64/sve: signal: Add SVE state record to sigcontext Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:41 ` [RFC PATCH 24/29] arm64/sve: Discard SVE state on system call Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:41 ` [RFC PATCH 18/29] arm64/sve: signal: Restore FPSIMD/SVE state in rt_sigreturn Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:41 ` [RFC PATCH 17/29] arm64/sve: signal: Dump Scalable Vector Extension registers to user stack Dave Martin
2016-11-25 19:42 ` [RFC PATCH 27/29] arm64/sve: ptrace support Dave Martin
2016-11-30  9:56 ` [RFC PATCH 00/29] arm64: Scalable Vector Extension core support Yao Qi
2016-11-30 12:07   ` Dave Martin
2016-11-30 12:22     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-11-30 14:10       ` Dave Martin [this message]
2016-11-30 12:38     ` Florian Weimer
2016-11-30 13:56       ` Dave Martin
2016-12-01  9:21         ` Florian Weimer
2016-12-01 10:30           ` Dave Martin
2016-12-01 12:19             ` Dave Martin
2016-12-05 10:44             ` Florian Weimer
2016-12-05 11:07               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-12-05 15:05               ` Dave Martin
2016-12-02 11:49       ` Dave Martin
2016-12-02 16:34         ` Florian Weimer
2016-12-02 16:59           ` Joseph Myers
2016-12-02 18:21             ` Dave Martin
2016-12-02 21:57               ` Joseph Myers
2016-12-02 21:56     ` Yao Qi
2016-12-05 15:12       ` Dave Martin
2016-12-05 22:42     ` Torvald Riegel
2016-12-06 14:46       ` Dave Martin
2016-11-30 10:08 ` Florian Weimer
2016-11-30 11:06   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-11-30 14:06     ` Dave Martin

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