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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@delorie.com>
To: dberlin@redhat.com
Cc: per@bothner.com, ac131313@cygnus.com, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: C++ FAIL counts and the effect of demangler fix
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:32:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200102161032.FAA04544@indy.delorie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x7wvarj994.fsf@dynamic-addr-83-177.resnet.rochester.edu>

> From: Daniel Berlin <dberlin@redhat.com>
> Date: 16 Feb 2001 03:57:11 -0500
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@delorie.com> writes:
> 
> > > From: Per Bothner <per@bothner.com>
> > > Date: 15 Feb 2001 13:54:02 -0800
> > > 
> > > Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > >	o	I don't want GDB's release schedule in
> > > >		someway directly tided to GCC's release
> > > >		schedule.
> > > 
> > > I think that is unavoidable, given that Gcc 3 has a new and
> > > incompatible C++ ABI.  It is Bad if the current release of Gdb cannot
> > > debug code produced from the current release of Gcc.  Therefore, Gdb
> > > 5.1 should be released before or at the same time as Gcc 3.0 is
> > > released, and it needs to have at least tolerable support for the new
> > > C++ ABI.
[snip]
> > 
> > If there are important reasons why the next release of GDB should
> > support the new C++ ABI, then perhaps the GCC team should help Daniel
> > and others work on the GDB side of this support. 
[snip]
> I don't agree with this.
> The GCC team is responsible for GCC, not GDB.

[Sorry for the long quotations, they are necessary in this case.]

Let me back up for a moment.  See the quotations above; it goes like
this:

   - Andrew says he doesn't want GDB's release schedule to be directly
     tied to GCC's releases (FWIW, I'm with Andrew on this one);

   - Per replies that it is very important that GDB _does_ release its
     new version with the new C++ ABI support together with GCC 3.0;

   - To this I say that if the GCC teams wants it so badly, they
     should come on board and help.

In other words, I also don't think that the GCC team should be
developing GDB.  What I am saying is that if they think our decisions
are not good enough for them, they have the opportuninty to make a
difference by contributing the code.


  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-16  2:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-14  8:49 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2001-02-15 10:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-02-15 13:46   ` Per Bothner
2001-02-15 15:06     ` Andrew Cagney
2001-02-15 15:14       ` Per Bothner
2001-02-15 23:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-02-16  0:58       ` Daniel Berlin
2001-02-16  2:32         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-02-14 10:24 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2001-02-14  8:52 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2001-02-14 10:06 ` Daniel Berlin
2001-02-14  0:06 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2001-02-14  7:31 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-02-14  8:28   ` Daniel Berlin

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