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From: Philippe Waroquiers <philippe.waroquiers@skynet.be>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>, Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com>
Cc: GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Using libthread_db.so with single-threaded programs, for TLS access (was: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Pretty-printing for errno)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 19:27:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1505330791.1896.10.camel@skynet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72a8ac9b-2429-c8bd-83b9-d758224571c5@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2017-09-13 at 12:22 +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
> On 09/07/2017 12:34 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> > On 09/06/2017 10:03 PM, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> > 
> > > So, changes to both gdb and libthread_db seem to be required
> > > here.  I
> > > do think that _in principle_ it ought to be possible to use
> > > libthread_db to retrieve the address of thread-local data even if
> > > the
> > > inferior is not linked with libpthread; glibc has quite a few
> > > thread-specific variables (errno most prominent, of course, but
> > > also
> > > h_errno, _res, etc), and so might any library which can be used
> > > from
> > > both single- and multithreaded programs.
> > > 
> > > This is really not code I feel comfortable hacking up, though,
> > > and
> > > it's probably more of a project than I have time for, in any
> > > case.
> > 
> > Sounds like a promising approach though.  I'd like to see this path
> > explored a bit more.  I'll keep this in my TODO, even though it's
> > not likely to bubble up very soon.  Thanks for the
> > discussion/ideas!
> 
> So I played with this a bit more on the plane back from Cauldron,
> to try to see if we'd hit some major roadblock.  I also chatted
> with Carlos a bit about this back at the Cauldron, and seemingly
> there's no major reason this can't be made to work,
> TLS-internals-wise.
> 
> Seems like that it's mainly a case of moving libthread_db.so-related
> symbols from libpthread.so elsewhere.  More below.
Note that in the valgrind gdbserver, I had to handle the same problem
i.e. find the address of a tls variable without access to any
library (valgrind cannot make use of any library including glibc).

So, I finally end-ed up implementing the minimum logic for that.
It is based on some real ugly hacks, e.g. to get the offset of
lm_modid in struct link_map.
There is also some arch dependent 1 or 2 lines of code to get the dtv.


This is all somewhat fragile, was done in 2014, not broken (yet).
But some more recent changes might have broken the hack,
as I have a test failing after upgrading to Debian 9.

See valgrind  coregrind/m_gdbserver/server.c handling of qGetTLSAddr
for
the gory/hacky details.

Better (even partial) support for such things without the need of a
library would significantly improve my life :)

Philippe


  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-13 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-22 22:45 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Pretty-printing for errno Zack Weinberg
2017-06-22 22:45 ` [PATCH 1/3] Improve testing of GDB pretty-printers Zack Weinberg
2017-06-22 22:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] Add pretty-printer for errno Zack Weinberg
2017-06-22 22:46 ` [PATCH 2/3] Make error_t always int; make __errno_location return an __error_t Zack Weinberg
2017-06-29 15:48 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Pretty-printing for errno Phil Muldoon
2017-06-29 16:53   ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-29 17:02     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-29 17:28       ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-30  0:28         ` Zack Weinberg
2017-06-30 16:38           ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-30 16:47             ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-30 17:27             ` Zack Weinberg
2017-06-30 18:11               ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-01 11:56                 ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-13  2:30                 ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-04 21:25                   ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-05 21:15                     ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-05 22:32                       ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-06 13:05                         ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-06 13:32                           ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-06 21:03                             ` Zack Weinberg
     [not found]                               ` <2432779a-f146-1612-236e-84dde15c5d01@redhat.com>
2017-09-13 11:22                                 ` Using libthread_db.so with single-threaded programs, for TLS access (was: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Pretty-printing for errno) Pedro Alves
2017-09-13 19:27                                   ` Philippe Waroquiers [this message]
2017-09-14  0:02                                   ` Using libthread_db.so with single-threaded programs, for TLS access Pedro Alves
2017-09-18 13:17                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-09-18 14:28                                       ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-01 14:35               ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Pretty-printing for errno Siddhesh Poyarekar
2017-07-04 15:54                 ` Pedro Alves

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