From: Luis Machado via Gdb-patches <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: david.spickett@linaro.org, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 20/24] Documentation for the new mtag commands
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 16:04:45 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd097dd3-a3b1-cd01-932c-d53c671386e0@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y2jwj0dk.fsf@gnu.org>
On 10/23/20 2:52 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, david.spickett@linaro.org
>> From: Luis Machado <luis.machado@linaro.org>
>> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 11:33:36 -0300
>>
>> But, in general, there will always be a memory-side tag against which a
>> logical tag (contained in a pointer, for example) will be matched against.
>
> This is the crucial aspect that should be stated, IMO.
>
I realized the order of the phrases was a bit off. I reordered it a bit
and added to it. How does the following look?
"Memory tagging is a memory protection technology that uses a pair of
tags to validate memory accesses through pointers. The tags are integer
values usually comprised of a few bits, depending on the architecture.
There are two types of tags that are used in this setup: logical and
allocation. A logical tag is stored in the pointers themselves, usually
at the higher bits of the pointers. An allocation tag is the tag
associated with particular ranges of memory in the physical address
space, against which the logical tags from pointers are compared.
The pointer tag (logical tag) must match the memory tag (allocation tag)
for the memory access to be valid. If the logical tag does not match
the allocation tag, that will raise a memory violation.
Allocation tags cover multiple contiguous bytes of physical memory.
This range of bytes is called a memory tag granule and is
architecture-specific. For example, AArch64 has a tag granule of 16
bytes, meaning each allocation tag spans 16 bytes of memory.
If the underlying architecture supports memory tagging, like AArch64 MTE
or SPARC ADI do, @value{GDBN} can make use of it to validate addresses
and pointers against memory allocation tags.
A command prefix of @code{mtag} gives access to the various memory
tagging commands."
>>>> +@kindex mtag setltag
>>>> +@item mtag setltag @var{address_expression} @var{tag_bytes}
>>>> +Print the address given by @var{address_expression}, augmented with a logical
>>>
>>> It is strange for a command whose name is "set..." to print
>>> something. I'd expect it to set something instead. is the above
>>> description correct?
>>>
>>
>> Yes. This is one area that I'd welcome some discussion/feedback.
>>
>> We don't always have a modifiable value as an argument to the "mtag
>> setltag" command. We could have a constant value, a read-only value,
>> some reference or some expression containing multiple pointers.
>>
>> Plus, the most natural way to modify a value in GDB is through the
>> existing "set variable" command.
>>
>> The main goal is to be able to augment a particular address with a given
>> logical tag. That augmented value can then be used to set a particular
>> pointer or value. It will be stored in the history anyway, so that's
>> already a value that you can use.
>>
>> There won't be much reason to set logical tags other than if you're
>> chasing bugs and trying to cause one. It is one additional knob so that
>> you won't need to craft the tagged pointer by hand.
>
> Maybe the command should be called something other than "set...",
> then?
>
Maybe. Though honestly I'm not really sure what to call it. Even if we
call it "set" and make it really set some variable's value, it won't be
able to set the value of an expression with multiple variables, for example.
I'll have to think about it.
>>>> +@kindex mtag check
>>>> +@item mtag check @var{address_expression}
>>>> +Check that the logical tag stored at the address given by
>>>> +@var{address_expression} matches the allocation tag for the same address.
>>>
>>> This test should say that this check performs the same validation as
>>> is done in hardware when memory is accessed through a pointer. Saying
>>> that (assuming I understood correctly) will go a long way towards
>>> causing this facility to make much more sense to the reader.
>>
>> Does it make it more clear if I add the following:
>>
>> "This essentially emulates the hardware validation that is done when
>> tagged memory is accessed through a pointer, but does not cause a memory
>> fault as it would during hardware validation.
>>
>> It can be used to inspect potential memory tagging violations in the
>> running process, before any faults get triggered."
>
> Yes, this is a good addition, thanks.
>
Thanks. Fixed now.
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-22 19:59 [PATCH v2 00/24] Memory Tagging Support + AArch64 Linux implementation Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/24] New target methods for memory tagging support Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-27 13:22 ` Simon Marchi
2020-10-27 13:43 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-27 13:50 ` Simon Marchi
2020-10-22 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/24] New gdbarch memory tagging hooks Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/24] Add GDB-side remote target support for memory tagging Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-29 14:22 ` Alan Hayward via Gdb-patches
2020-10-29 14:41 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/24] Unit testing for GDB-side remote memory tagging handling Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/24] GDBserver remote packet support for memory tagging Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/24] Unit tests for gdbserver memory tagging remote packets Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/24] Documentation for " Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 14:07 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 14:33 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 14:39 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/24] AArch64: Add MTE CPU feature check support Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/24] AArch64: Add target description/feature for MTE registers Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 10/24] AArch64: Add MTE register set support for GDB and gdbserver Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 11/24] AArch64: Add MTE ptrace requests Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 12/24] AArch64: Implement memory tagging target methods for AArch64 Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-29 14:21 ` Alan Hayward via Gdb-patches
2020-10-29 14:39 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-29 14:45 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-29 17:32 ` Alan Hayward via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 13/24] Refactor parsing of /proc/<pid>/smaps Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 14/24] AArch64: Implement the memory tagging gdbarch hooks Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 15/24] AArch64: Add unit testing for logical tag set/get operations Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 16/24] AArch64: Report tag violation error information Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 17/24] AArch64: Add gdbserver MTE support Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 18/24] AArch64: Add MTE register set support for core files Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 19/24] New mtag commands Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 20/24] Documentation for the new " Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 14:33 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 19:04 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches [this message]
2020-10-23 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb-patches
2020-10-26 14:59 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-26 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb-patches
2020-10-26 16:57 ` Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 21/24] Extend "x" and "print" commands to support memory tagging Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 22/24] Document new "x" and "print" memory tagging extensions Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 23/24] Add NEWS entry Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
2020-10-23 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb-patches
2020-10-22 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 24/24] Add memory tagging testcases Luis Machado via Gdb-patches
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