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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
Cc: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,
	Marcus Shawcroft <marcus.shawcroft@gmail.com>,
	Terry.Guo@arm.com, 	Marcus Shawcroft <Marcus.Shawcroft@arm.com>,
		"lgustavo@codesourcery.com" <lgustavo@codesourcery.com>,
	yao@codesourcery.com, 	gdb-patches@sourceware.org,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
		"Gareth, McMullin" <gareth@blacksphere.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [RFA/commit] arm-tdep.c: Do not single-step after hitting a watchpoint
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 22:54:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA9Dx5GE6QCktvbQF8sL1MsRxE5BmPNruSw4FsW9VyD_2w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5429D9FC.6000509@redhat.com>

On 29 September 2014 23:15, Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 09/29/2014 07:23 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> Note that the ARMv7 architecture allows watchpoints to
>> be implemented as *asynchronous*

> I only have DDI 0406C.b handy, which says:
>
>  ARMv7 permits watchpoints to be either synchronous or asynchronous. An implementation can implement
>  synchronous watchpoints, asynchronous watchpoints, or both. It is IMPLEMENTATION DEFINED under what
>  circumstances a watchpoint is synchronous or asynchronous.
>
> Ouch.  So this IMPLEMENTATION DEFINED note means this isn't really
> in control of the software/debugger, i.e., nothing a stub/probe
> could tweak, but instead baked into the specific ARM chip?

Correct. IMPDEF means that it is the choice of the
CPU implementation which behaviour to take.

>> QEMU's built in gdbstub was incorrectly not implementing
>> synchronous watchpoints (ie it was halting after the
>> execution of the offending insn, not before). This is fixed
>> by the QEMU patch referenced earlier, and with that patch
>> QEMU and GDB interoperate correctly (on ARM and also on
>> other architectures which have the "stop before insn"
>> watchpoint semantics).
>
> "Incorrect" may be too strong then, but understood.

I wrote the QEMU patch; I'm happy to call our old
behaviour incorrect :-)

> So even on Linux, iiuc, it's possible to see a watchpoint
> trigger after the write has already happened; it'll depend on
> hardware implementation.

Yes.

> I think the most flexible would be if the watchpoint
> event reported to GDB indicated which type it got, so
> that'd support the case an arch ever supports mixing both
> kinds of watchpoints.

Ha, I hadn't noticed that the architecture permits an
implementation to provide both kinds (or indeed to
have one watchpoint that might fire in either way), but
you're right that it's theoretically allowed.

> The next option would be something in the xml target description.
> It's be a global per-target, so no mixing types of watchpoints.
> (That is either sent to gdb by the stub, or loaded manually
> with "set tdesc filename".)
>
> Failing all that, we may want a "set arm ..." knob to
> override the default...
>
> Or we just forget all this, assuming that ARM chips that
> have async watchpoints will disappear into obsolescence
> forever soon enough.  :-)

There's an assertion in this LKML post from 2010:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/14/127
that v7 cores do actually all generate synchronous
watchpoint exceptions (even though architecturally
they're permitted not to). Was your test h/w a v6?

If this is a v6-and-earlier thing I'd certainly be tempted
to sweep the issue under the carpet...

thanks
-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-29 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-29 18:23 Peter Maydell
2014-09-29 22:15 ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-29 22:54   ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2014-09-30  9:08     ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-30  9:18       ` Will Deacon
2014-09-30 10:07         ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-30 10:18           ` Peter Maydell
2014-09-30 10:38             ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-30 10:01       ` Peter Maydell
2014-09-30 10:34         ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-30 12:54           ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-30 13:50             ` Joel Brobecker
2014-09-30 14:11               ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-30 14:26                 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-09-30 14:50                   ` Peter Maydell
2014-09-30  8:57 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-30  9:04   ` Will Deacon
2014-09-30  9:14   ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-30  9:24     ` Will Deacon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-09-15 13:01 Joel Brobecker
2014-09-16 11:12 ` Yao Qi
2014-09-16 11:59   ` Joel Brobecker
2014-09-16 12:05     ` Luis Machado
2014-09-16 12:48       ` Joel Brobecker
2014-09-16 13:09         ` Luis Machado
2014-09-16 15:21           ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-18 11:40             ` Marcus Shawcroft
2014-09-19 17:31               ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-29 17:51                 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-09-29 17:57                   ` Luis Machado
2014-09-29 21:04                   ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-30  8:54                     ` Will Deacon

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