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From: Doug Evans <dje@google.com>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
Cc: gdb-patches <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [RFA] fix ref counting of inferior_to_inferior_object
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:29:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADPb22QwB7MYkVZCiYijnq7QdJHcjNhkvxbDm5K4FJxMdv3ghw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ob7giwgd.fsf@fleche.redhat.com>

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Doug" == Doug Evans <dje@google.com> writes:
>
>>> The current model is that the Python object mirroring the inferior
>>> clears the inferior->Python mapping when it is finally destroyed.
>>> If the Python code then requests the Python object for that inferior
>>> again, a new object is created.  This is "ok" because the Inferior
>>> object doesn't carry any user state.
>
> Doug> Doesn't the caller always need to know whether s/he is getting a new
> Doug> reference or a borrowed reference?
> Doug> How will s/he keep the reference count correct?
> Doug> [maybe I'm misunderstanding the terms used here]
>
> I believe that in this case, the caller always gets a new reference.
> gdb's "struct inferior" does not own a reference here.

Blech.  Can I ask for a coding convention that prohibits the use of
the word "reference" by itself?  1/2 :-)
Instead, always use "borrowed reference" or "new reference".
Otherwise, I have to dig to make sure the author or user of the code
didn't mistake one for the other (and I'd rather be doing something
else :-)).

> There are different ways to tie the lifetimes of gdb objects and their
> Python wrappers.  One model is that the gdb object owns a reference.
> Another model is that it does not.
>
> Which one we pick depends on a few factors, including whim I suppose.
> If the object has user-settable state, though, then the owning model
> must be preferred.

Not that you disagree or anything, but IWBN to remove whim from the equation.
Consistency Is Good, and all that.

If we're going to store a pointer to the Python object in a gdb
registry, why not have a convention that gdb owns a reference?
[could be missing something of course]

> In the "does not own" model, then the destruction of the last Python
> reference must also clear the link from the gdb object to the Python
> object.  In this case that is done in infpy_dealloc.
>
> It's unclear to me whether we've made the best available choices here.
> There was some discussion on irc about the difficulty of making weak
> references to gdb's wrapper objects.  (This may be just a buglet in the
> class definitions; but it calls into question the "is_valid" model.)
>
> Tom


  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-25 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-12 22:27 Doug Evans
2013-09-23 20:41 ` Tom Tromey
2013-09-25 18:18   ` Doug Evans
2013-09-25 18:32     ` Tom Tromey
2013-09-25 19:29       ` Doug Evans [this message]
2013-09-25 20:11         ` Tom Tromey
2013-09-25 21:11           ` Doug Evans

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