From: Patrick Palka <patrick@parcs.ath.cx>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix the processing of Meta-key commands in TUI
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:41:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+C-WL9QM2qkwqGFmAL8S8_6-G5hjW890EyqcdH0OwFXwBpaaA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+C-WL9NUjF3mbgXCsavpYUwfixhNLEMyhOXfurNCPtjRfnsRg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Patrick Palka <patrick@parcs.ath.cx> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 08/27/2014 07:25 PM, Patrick Palka wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Pedro Alves wrote:
>>
>>>> The main reason I think there's a larger problem here, is that
>>>> if curses is reading more than one char from stdin, then that means
>>>> that is must be blocking for a bit waiting for the next character,
>>>> which is a no-no in an async world, where we want to be processing
>>>> target events at the same time. The man page says:
>>>>
>>>> While interpreting an input escape sequence, wgetch sets a timer while waiting for the next character. If notimeout(win, TRUE) is called, then wgetch does not
>>>> set a timer. The purpose of the timeout is to differentiate between sequences received from a function key and those typed by a user.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like there's a default timeout of 1 second. Indeed if I set a
>>>> breakpoint in wgetch and another right after wgetch is called, and
>>>> then I press escape, I see that gdb is stuck inside wgetch for around
>>>> one second. During that time, gdb's own event loop isn't being processed.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure exactly how this is usually handled. Seems like there
>>>> are several knobs that might be able to turn this delay off.
>>>> Sounds like we should enable that (whatever the option is),
>>>> and handle the timeout ourselves?
>>>
>>> I don't think the timeout is the issue here. Even if the timeout is
>>> disabled via notimeout(), wgetch() will still attempt to interpret keypad
>>> sequences by reading multiple characters from stdin -- except that the
>>> read will now be a non-blocking one instead of a blocking one.
>>>
>>> One way or another, someone must read multiple keys from stdin in order
>>> to semantically distinguish between keypad keys and regular key
>>> sequences. And when it turns out that the input is not or cannot be a
>>> keypad key then that someone must place the extraneous keys into a
>>> buffer and notify GDB's event handler that we missed their stdin events.
>>
>> Right, that's a given. What I was talking about is fixing the
>> 1 second block in case the input stops before a sequence is complete.
>>
>>> If we handle the timeout ourselves (for instance by disabling keypad()
>>> and enabling notimeout()) then we'll be responsible for doing the
>>> lookahead, interpreting the sequences and buffering the keypresses. I
>>> say let ncurses continue to handle the timeout so that we'll only be
>>> responsible for notifying the event handler.
>>>
>>> Though I may just be misunderstanding your proposal.
>>
>> The main idea was to not let ncurses ever block, as that prevents
>> gdb's event loop from handling target events. If ncurses internally
>> already handled the timeout by comparing the time between
>> wgetch calls instead of doing a blocking select/poll internally, then
>> it'd be a bit easier, but it looks like it doesn't (GetEscdelay always
>> starts with the window's configured delay, on each wgetch call?), so we'd
>> need to track the timeout ourselves. Even if it did, it wouldn't be that
>> different though.
>
> Is the internal timeout a big deal though? The handling of the target
> event just gets temporarily delayed, not missed entirely, right? And
> isn't this timeout only experienced when one presses ESC (which has no
> use in TUI) and/or attempts to manually type a function key sequence?
> I'm not sure why anyone would do that.
>
>>
>> What we'd need is:
>>
>> #1 - set ncurses to be _always_ non-blocking/no-delay.
>> #2 - on input, call wgetch, as today.
>> #3 - due to no-delay, that now only looks ahead for as long as
>> there are already bytes ready to be read from the input file / stdin.
>> #4 - if the sequence looks like a _known_ escape sequence, but
>> it isn't complete yet, then wgetch leaves already-read bytes
>> in the fifo, and returns ERR. That's the "the keys stay uninterpreted"
>> comment in lib_getch.c.
>> #5 - at this point, we need to wait for either:
>> (a) further input, in case further input finishes the sequence.
>
> Not sure it's possible to make wgetch() behave this way. From what I
> can tell, wgetch() will always return the key from its fifo if there's
> one available -- it won't check whether the fifo contents + a new key
> from stdin will make a complete sequence. It won't even read from
> stdin if there's a key in the fifo.
>
>> (b) the timeout to elapse, meaning no further input, and we should
>> pass the raw chars to readline.
>>
>> For #5/(a), there's nothing to do, that's already what the
>> stdin handler does.
>>
>> For #5/(b), because we don't want to block in the stdin handler (tui_getc)
>> blocked waiting for the timeout, we would instead install a timer in gdb's event
>> loop whose callback was just be the regular TUI stdin input handler. This time, given
>> enough time had elapsed with no further input, we want the raw chars. If ncurses
>> internally knows that sufficient time has passed, then good, we only have to
>> call wgetch, and we know ncurses gives us the raw keys (the incomplete sequence).
>> If it doesn't (looks like it doesn't, but I may be wrong), then we just temporarily
>> switch off the keypad, and read one char, which returns us the raw escape char at
>> the head of the fifo, and leaves the rest in the fifo for subsequent reads.
>> As the fifo is now missing the escape char, we can go back to normal, with the
>> keypad enabled, and the next time we call wgetch should return us the head of
>> the fifo immediately, if there's anything there.
>>
>> Going back to step #4, in case the sequence is _unknown_ or the timeout
>> has expired:
>>
>> #4.2 - if the sequence in the fifo is definitely an _unknown_ escape
>> sequence, wgetch returns the first char in the fifo, leaving the
>> remainder of the bytes in the fifo. TBC, in this case, we _don't_
>> get back ERR. As there are more bytes in the fifo, then we need
>> to compensate for the missed stdin events, like in your patch. (*)
>>
>> (*) - so it sounds your patch would be necessary anyway.
>>
>> Oddly, even when doing:
>>
>> nodelay (w, TRUE);
>> notimeout (w, TRUE);
>>
>> in tui_getc, I _still_ get that a one second block within wgetch...
>> Looks like related to mouse event handling, even though mouse
>> events were not enabled...:
>
> Yeah same here. I can't seem to find the magical invocation that
> actually disables this timeout.
So it looks like the (non-standard) ncurses variable ESCDELAY is what
controls the timeout: wgetch() sets the timeout to ESCDELAY
milliseconds. So do you suppose that we should set this variable
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-28 17:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-22 20:44 Patrick Palka
2014-08-27 17:06 ` Pedro Alves
2014-08-27 18:25 ` Patrick Palka
2014-08-28 11:22 ` Pedro Alves
2014-08-28 13:10 ` Patrick Palka
2014-08-28 14:13 ` Patrick Palka
2014-08-28 15:59 ` Pedro Alves
2014-08-28 16:22 ` Patrick Palka
2014-08-28 17:41 ` Patrick Palka [this message]
2014-08-28 17:44 ` Patrick Palka
2014-08-28 11:31 ` Pedro Alves
2014-08-28 14:18 ` Patrick Palka
2014-08-28 16:13 ` Pedro Alves
2014-08-28 16:26 ` Patrick Palka
2014-11-14 19:12 ` Patrick Palka
2014-11-23 10:08 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-11-23 12:41 ` Patrick Palka
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