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From: <Paul.Koning@dell.com>
To: <simon.marchi@polymtl.ca>
Cc: <orgads@gmail.com>, <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix python compatibility with old versions of GDB
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:53:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9572671A-5A73-4692-861A-4D9D8FDF9540@dell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <227db26304444bfb5ed8f699ab67e7fd@polymtl.ca>


> On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:23 AM, Simon Marchi <simon.marchi@polymtl.ca> wrote:
> 
> On 2017-06-12 06:31, Orgad Shaneh wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Simon Marchi <simon.marchi@polymtl.ca> wrote:
>>> Hi Orgad,
>>> I still don't understand what problem this is trying to fix.  It looks like
>>> you want to make older versions of GDB work with newer versions of the
>>> Python scripts in the data directory.  I am not sure this is what we want.
>>> If you want multiple version of GDB in parallel on a system, they should all
>>> be compiled with a different --prefix, and they will all get their own
>>> data-directory.  We should only expect a certain version of the data
>>> directory to be compatible with the version of GDB it was shipped with.  Or
>>> am I missing some use case where this is not true?
>> Hi,
>> Practically the data-directory is mostly backwards-compatible, except this
>> small part which I found (there might be others which I didn't find). With this
>> patch, I'm able to run GDB 7.8 with the latest data-directory.
>> Is there a reason not to accept it?
> 
> I'd like to know what other maintainers think about this.  We may have already faced this situation before and taken a decision which I'm not aware of.  Otherwise, we need to take it now.

Are we talking about GDB-supplied scripts, or user scripts?

For scripts that come with GDB, the script comes with the rest of GDB so it can be specific to a version.  That makes for more work in creating or modifying GDB, but it's our problem.

User scripts should deliver backward compatibility: a script that conforms to the documented API should continue to work in later releases.  The converse doesn't hold, of course: a script written to the latest API doesn't necessarily work with older versions, just as a program written to C11 doesn't necessarily compile or run with C89.

As for Python 2 vs. 3, GDB supports both and the Python-facing API is the same (modulo the places where Python 3 itself is different, such as around strings vs. bytes or ints vs. long ints).  A simple script may work with both; a more complex script might not be unless the author goes through some effort to make it so.  But that's not particularly related to GDB, it's more a question of how you write Python-version-independent scripts.

	paul


      parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-13 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-11 17:48 Orgad Shaneh
2017-06-11 21:09 ` Simon Marchi
2017-06-12  4:31   ` Orgad Shaneh
2017-06-13 11:23     ` Simon Marchi
2017-06-13 12:12       ` Tom Tromey
2017-06-13 12:29         ` Phil Muldoon
2017-06-13 14:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-13 17:29           ` Simon Marchi
2017-06-13 17:47             ` Matt Rice
2017-06-13 18:42               ` Tom Tromey
2017-06-13 19:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-13 19:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-13 12:53       ` Paul.Koning [this message]

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