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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>
To: Yury Khrustalev <yury.khrustalev@arm.com>
Cc: Matthieu Longo <matthieu.longo@arm.com>,
	 <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>,
	Luis Machado <luis.machado@amd.com>,
	 Luis Machado <luis.machado.foss@gmail.com>,
	 Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>,
	"Pedro Alves" <pedro@palves.net>,  Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>,
	 Srinath Parvathaneni <srinath.parvathaneni@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 09/10] gdb/linux-tdep: parse ProtectionKey in /proc/PID/smaps
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2026 06:40:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zezfk1we.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <amM-C54uYc_Reb2X@arm.com> (Yury Khrustalev's message of "Fri, 24 Jul 2026 11:27:23 +0100")

Yury Khrustalev <yury.khrustalev@arm.com> writes:

> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 02:58:38AM +0000, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
>> Matthieu Longo <matthieu.longo@arm.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On 14/07/2026 10:12, Matthieu Longo wrote:
>> >> On 09/07/2026 07:42, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> There's nothing in this patch series that uses the parsed pkey, so IMHO
>> >>> (other maintainers may disagree) it makes more sense if this patch is
>> >>> committed together with a patch that makes use of the field.
>> >> 
>> >> Nothing uses it yet because it is still unclear how to expose it to the users.
>> >> I assume that "info proc mappings" is a good place to do it.
>> 
>> I agree.
>> 
>> >> As a reminder those are the existing columns:
>> >> Start Addr         End Addr           Size               Offset             Perms File
>> >> 
>> >> Should we add a new column "Protection Key" or "PKey" between "Offset" and "Perms" ?
>> >> What do you think ?
>> 
>> I like the idea. A short column name is better to avoid wasting precious
>> horizontal space. I think "PKey" is hard to guess if one isn't familiar
>> with the hardware feature, so I'd suggest "ProtKey". What do you think?
>
> PKey is a standard recognised term (see [1] for one example), so I think we should use it.
>
> [1]: https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/pkeys.7.html

Ah, even better. PKey is good then. Thanks for the reference.

>> > Additionally, if we were to print the permissions associated with a PKey, what do you
>> > think about
>> > the following view ?
>> >
>> > Start Addr         End Addr           Size               Offset    PKey     Perms File
>> > 0x0000000000400000 0x0000000000483000 0x83000 0x0 0 r-xp /path/to/file
>> >     ...
>> > 0x00000000004a2000 0x00000000004a7000 0x5000             0x0       1        rw-p
>> >     Thread 1: effective: r--  overlay: r--
>> >     Thread 3: effective: rw-  overlay: rw-
>> >     Thread 4: effective: r--  overlay: r-x
>> 
>> I like it. Just a few comments:
>> 
>> > Effective being the effective permissions resulting from the ANDing of the base
>> > permissions (coming
>> > from "Perms") AND the overlay permissions attached to a thread (permissions associated
>> > to
>> > the PKey.
>> 
>> Maybe it's just me, but displaying the overlay permissions after the
>> effective permissions makes me think that the latter are the actually
>> effective ones (I guess because English is a left-to-right language).
>
> The idea is that effective permissions are always displayed while
> overlay and any other future types of permissions are optional and
> might not be present. I think having left-most columns always present
> and aligned will make it easier to read and parse.

Ok, that makes sense. I'll only note that parsing isn't a concern,
because the regular GDB output is for humans. For parsing GDB has the
Machine Interface.

>> So to me it's more intuitive either if the effective field comes later,
>> or alternatively if there's something to indicate that overlay is not
>> the main field. E.g., by using parentheses:
>> 
>>     Thread 1: effective permissions: r--  (overlay: r--)
>> 
>> Also, as seen above I think it's clearer if the word "permissions" is
>> added.
>
> I think parentheses and another "permissions" word repeated on every
> line will only waste horizontal space. The format of output will be
> documented of anyone is unsure what those symbols mean.

Ok, makes sense too.

>> > The look-up of those overlay permissions is platform-specific).
>> 
>> Considering that there are differences in how protection keys are
>> implemented in different architectures (e.g., IIUC only Arm has overlay
>> permissions), the whole "effective: r-- overlay: r--" part of the line
>> should be printed by a gdbarch hook.
>> 
>> > If no protection key support exists on the target, the PKey column would not be printed.
>> > Same for the threads' permissions (effective and overlay).
>> 
>> Also even if protection key support is available, if there's no
>> protection key set for any mapping then the column shouldn't be printed
>> either. Or is there always a key associated with every mapping?
>
> I think the column should be just empty or have some placeholder like a
> hyphen when mapping is not associated with a pkey.

I don't see much use for an empty column (or one containing only
placeholder values), but I also don't feel strongly about it.

-- 
Thiago
(he/him)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-25  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-07 15:48 [PATCH v1 00/10] gdb: bugfix 31207 and various refactoring in linux-tdep Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 01/10] gdb/linux-tdep: change linux_fill_prpsinfo to return bool Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:26   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-09 12:23     ` Simon Marchi
2026-07-27 14:38       ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 02/10] gdb: rely on the first alive thread TPID when reading Linux procfs files Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:29   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-13  9:11     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09 14:24   ` Simon Marchi
2026-07-14 15:47     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 03/10] target_fileio_read_stralloc: add an optional length parameter Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:30   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-13 15:26     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-24  2:50       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-27 14:52         ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-29  1:57           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-21 21:28   ` Luis
2026-07-27 14:48     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-27 14:53     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 04/10] gdb support: add gdb::replace algorithm for iterators and ranges Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:30   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-10 21:21   ` Kevin Buettner
2026-07-13 15:51     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-21 21:33   ` Luis
2026-07-27 14:58     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 05/10] gdb: introduce helper class file_reader_t Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:33   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-13 17:17     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-10 21:43   ` Kevin Buettner
2026-07-13 16:31     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-13 15:50   ` Schimpe, Christina
2026-07-13 17:12     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-22 16:36       ` Joos, Christina
2026-07-27 15:13         ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 06/10] gdb/linux-tdep: migrate linux_info_proc to file_reader_t Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:35   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-13 17:20     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-21 21:43   ` Luis
2026-07-27 17:11     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 07/10] gdb/linux-tdep: migrate linux_find_memory_regions_full " Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:36   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-14  8:40     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-24  2:51       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-21 21:47   ` Luis
2026-07-27 17:14     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 08/10] gdb/linux-tdep: migrate parse_smaps_data " Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:41   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-14  8:49     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-24  2:52       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-21 21:49   ` Luis
2026-07-27 17:17     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v1 09/10] gdb/linux-tdep: parse ProtectionKey in /proc/PID/smaps Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:42   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-14  9:12     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-14  9:29       ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-24  2:58         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-24 10:27           ` Yury Khrustalev
2026-07-25  6:40             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann [this message]
2026-07-27  8:22               ` Yury Khrustalev
2026-07-29  1:10                 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-21 21:57   ` Luis
2026-07-27 17:54     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-07 15:49 ` [PATCH v1 10/10] gdb/linux: add helpers to read AT_HWCAP3 and AT_HWCAP4 Matthieu Longo
2026-07-09  6:44   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-21 21:58     ` Luis
2026-07-27 17:32       ` Matthieu Longo

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