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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>
To: Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>
Cc: "Schimpe, Christina" <christina.schimpe@intel.com>,
	"gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>,
	"eliz@gnu.org" <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/11] gdb: Handle shadow stack pointer register unwinding for amd64 linux.
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:36:32 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y0tiuj27.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81a32c0a-d9a5-4a58-a6ac-eb8cdb498ada@arm.com> (Luis Machado's message of "Mon, 23 Jun 2025 16:06:27 +0100")

Hello Luis,

Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com> writes:

> On 6/23/25 16:00, Schimpe, Christina wrote:
>> Hi Luis, 
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback. Please find my comments below.
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2025 11:25 AM
>>> To: Schimpe, Christina <christina.schimpe@intel.com>; gdb-
>>> patches@sourceware.org
>>> Cc: thiago.bauermann@linaro.org; eliz@gnu.org
>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/11] gdb: Handle shadow stack pointer register
>>> unwinding for amd64 linux.
>>>
>>> On 6/17/25 13:11, Christina Schimpe wrote:
>>>> +	 Using /proc/PID/smaps we can only check if the current shadow
>>>> +	 stack pointer SSP points to shadow stack memory.  Only if this is
>>>> +	 the case a valid previous shadow stack pointer can be
>>>> +	 calculated.  */
>>>> +      std::pair<CORE_ADDR, CORE_ADDR> range;
>>>> +      if (linux_address_in_shadow_stack_mem_range (ssp, &range))
>>>> +	{
>>>> +	  /* The shadow stack grows downwards.  To compute the previous
>>>> +	     shadow stack pointer, we need to increment SSP.  */
>>>> +	  CORE_ADDR new_ssp
>>>> +	    = ssp + amd64_linux_shadow_stack_element_size_aligned (gdbarch);
>>>> +
>>>> +	  /* If NEW_SSP points to the end of or before (<=) the current
>>>> +	     shadow stack memory range we consider NEW_SSP as valid (but
>>>> +	     empty).  */
>>>
>>> I couldn't quite understand the difference between the empty case and the
>>> unavailable case. But maybe I just don't fully understand the feature.
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to make the comment a bit more clear?
>> 
>> Is this a bit clearer?
>> 
>> "There can be scenarios where we have a shadow stack pointer but the shadow stack
>> is empty, as no call instruction has been executed yet.  If NEW_SSP points to the end
>> of or before (<=) the current shadow stack memory range we consider NEW_SSP as
>> valid (but empty). "
>
> Yes, that clear it up. Thanks!
>
>> 
>> Please also see my answer to Thiago:
>> https://sourceware.org/pipermail/gdb-patches/2025-June/218908.html
>
> Thanks. It would be nice if both series were consistent in this regard (<= or <).

I just realised that AArch64 and Intel represent an empty stack
differently, so it's correct to have <= on Intel and < on AArch64:

https://inbox.sourceware.org/gdb-patches/877c12vy3h.fsf@linaro.org/

-- 
Thiago

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-23 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-17 12:11 [PATCH v4 00/11] Add CET shadow stack support Christina Schimpe
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] gdbserver: Add optional runtime register set type Christina Schimpe
2025-06-19  9:27   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] gdbserver: Add assert in x86_linux_read_description Christina Schimpe
2025-06-19  9:27   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] gdb: Sync up x86-gcc-cpuid.h with cpuid.h from gcc 14 branch Christina Schimpe
2025-06-17 18:12   ` Tom Tromey
2025-06-20 12:39     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] gdb, gdbserver: Use xstate_bv for target description creation on x86 Christina Schimpe
2025-06-19  9:23   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-23 12:46     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-23 12:56       ` Luis Machado
2025-06-24 13:46         ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-26 16:03           ` Luis Machado
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] gdb, gdbserver: Add support of Intel shadow stack pointer register Christina Schimpe
2025-06-17 12:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-06-19  9:24   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-23 13:05     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] gdb: amd64 linux coredump support with shadow stack Christina Schimpe
2025-06-19  9:24   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-23 13:16     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] gdb: Handle shadow stack pointer register unwinding for amd64 linux Christina Schimpe
2025-06-19  9:25   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-20  1:42     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-06-23 14:55       ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-23 23:26         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-06-23 15:00     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-23 15:06       ` Luis Machado
2025-06-23 23:36         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann [this message]
2025-06-20  1:52   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] gdb, gdbarch: Enable inferior calls for shadow stack support Christina Schimpe
2025-06-19  9:25   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-23 17:49     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] gdb: Implement amd64 linux shadow stack support for inferior calls Christina Schimpe
2025-06-17 12:21   ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-06-19  9:25   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-27 19:52     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-28 10:38       ` Luis Machado
2025-06-28 20:03         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-06-28 21:05           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] gdb, gdbarch: Introduce gdbarch method to get the shadow stack pointer Christina Schimpe
2025-06-17 18:16   ` Tom Tromey
2025-06-20 12:59     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-19  9:26   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-23 18:00     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-17 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] gdb: Enable displaced stepping with shadow stack on amd64 linux Christina Schimpe
2025-06-17 12:22   ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-06-17 15:16     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-19  9:26   ` Luis Machado
2025-06-23 18:24     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-24  8:05       ` Luis Machado
2025-06-27 19:26         ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-06-28 10:35           ` Luis Machado

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