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From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
To: Simon Marchi <simon.marchi@polymtl.ca>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: tromey@adacore.com, brobecker@adacore.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Building today's snapshot of GDB with MinGW
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:40:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76a315f9-ed60-93b4-10ab-95bc3bc8ae64@palves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9876615e-ab54-9fc4-4892-f855901e951e@polymtl.ca>

On 7/2/20 3:25 PM, Simon Marchi via Gdb-patches wrote:
> On 2020-07-02 9:50 a.m., Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 18:09:11 +0300
>>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>>> Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, brobecker@adacore.com, tromey@adacore.com
>>>
>>>> We would not expect GDB to complain for Windows on i386:x86-64.
>>>>
>>>> The first thing I would do is make sure that the function _initialize_amd64_windows_tdep
>>>> gets executed at startup in your GDB.  This is the function that registers a handler for
>>>> the tuple (i386:x86-64, Windows).
>>>
>>> Thanks, I will take a look there and report what I see.
>>
>> I started looking at the code, but then I had a eureka moment.  You
>> mentioned _initialize_amd64_windows_tdep, so I presume you assumed my
>> build is a 64-bit one?  It isn't: it's a 3--bit build, and thus
>> _initialize_amd64_windows_tdep is not even compiled into the binary.
>>
>> Given that my build is a 32-bit one, it sounds expected to see
>> warnings I cited, as they all complain about 64-bit architectures,
>> right?
>>
>> Incidentally, I wonder why the gdbarch selftest is trying
>> architectures that are not supported and not even compiled in.  What
>> is the purpose of doing that?
> 
> It loops over all the architectures known to bfd.  So I suppose that in BFD,
> enabling support for i386 enables support for x86-64, that it all comes
> together.  But in GDB, when configuring GDB for a Windows i386 target, we
> don't add support for Windows x86-64 targets.  So the warnings you see make
> sense.
> 
> I noticed that when configuring GDB for an i386/Linux target, we also throw
> in support for amd64/Linux as well if $enable_64_bit_bfd is true (which allows
> a 32-bit program to read a large > 4GB executable, I suppose):
> 
> 290 i[34567]86-*-linux*)
> 291         # Target: Intel 386 running GNU/Linux
> 292         gdb_target_obs="i386-linux-tdep.o \
> 293                         glibc-tdep.o \
> 294                         solib-svr4.o symfile-mem.o \
> 295                         linux-tdep.o linux-record.o"
> 296         if test "x$enable_64_bit_bfd" = "xyes"; then
> 297             # Target: GNU/Linux x86-64
> 298             gdb_target_obs="amd64-linux-tdep.o ${gdb_target_obs}"
> 299         fi
> 300         ;;
> 

This is so a i686-linux-gnu hosted toolchain works with 64-bit binaries.
There are vendors who prefer (or used to prefer, time has passed
and don't know if that's still a thing) it that way, as it's a single
build for 32-bit and 64-bit hosts that way.   Users can then build
64-bit apps with e.g., "i686-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -m64".  Naturally,
the debugger follows suit (though that's only useful for cross debugging,
since for native debugging 64-bit inferiors, you need a 64-bit debugger).

See:

https://sourceware.org/legacy-ml/gdb-patches/2009-04/msg00420.html

> We could perhaps do the same for Windows, I don't think there would be any
> downsides to it, and it could be useful to some people.
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-02 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-29 18:27 Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-29 20:36 ` Christian Biesinger
2020-06-30 14:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-30 22:24     ` Simon Marchi
2020-07-01 15:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02 13:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02 14:25           ` Simon Marchi
2020-07-02 14:30             ` Simon Marchi
2020-07-02 17:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02 14:40             ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2020-07-02 17:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02 18:21                 ` Pedro Alves
2020-07-02 18:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02 18:34                     ` Pedro Alves
2020-07-01 15:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-01 19:25         ` Christian Biesinger
2020-07-02  2:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02 10:18             ` Hannes Domani
2020-07-02 13:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-06 10:39                 ` Hannes Domani
2020-07-06 16:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-01 19:25     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-07-02 13:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-30 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-30 18:21   ` Christian Biesinger
2020-06-30 18:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-01 19:29   ` Joel Brobecker
2020-07-02  2:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-01 19:30   ` Joel Brobecker
2020-07-02 13:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-03 15:25       ` Joel Brobecker
2020-07-27  9:49         ` Tom de Vries
2020-07-27 10:05           ` Tom de Vries
2020-07-27 10:26             ` Tom de Vries
2020-07-27 11:48               ` [committed][gdb/build] Fix typo sys/sockets.h -> sys/socket.h Tom de Vries
2020-07-27 12:51                 ` Joel Brobecker
2020-07-27 14:18               ` Building today's snapshot of GDB with MinGW Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-03 15:08   ` Eli Zaretskii

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