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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	       Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [libc patch] __tls_get_addr with link_map * instead of modid
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:56:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <544A76AE.8040107@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <544A60A5.4020701@redhat.com>

On 10/24/2014 03:22 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> I don't understand the tradeoffs, but if calling dlopen() in the inferior would
> have made life easy, then I would have done that first, regardless of the impact
> on the inferior. Only if users complained or found use cases where things broke
> would I have fallen back on the "technical purist" solution involving doing
> everything yourself. Those are decisions that you, as a gdb developer need to
> make, or reevaluate and make different.

Off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more:

- The user might want to evaluate an expression while the program itself
  has just called dlopen and is now stopped inside it.  This pesky dlopen
  recursion thing.  ;-)  It's best if GDB only calls async-signal
  safe functions behind the scenes, if possible.  Of course if the
  injected expression involves calls to async-signal unsafe code that breaks
  the inferior, the user gets what she asked for.

- The program might have not been linked with -ldl.

- I suspect there may be issues with messing with symbol resolution
  and self library walks in the inferior too.  Not sure if RTLD_LOCAL is
  enough.  dlmopen might be a better fit, but hmm, that isn't very
  well supported in GDB/glibc.

- A lower level mechanism has much better changes of working on
  more targets and runtimes of languages other than C with minimal
  changes.

Thanks,
Pedro Alves


      parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-24 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-18 20:15 Jan Kratochvil
2014-10-18 21:20 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-18 21:27   ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-10-18 21:44     ` Rich Felker
2014-10-23 10:03 ` Alexandre Oliva
2014-10-23 12:52   ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-10-24  1:47 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-10-24  2:21 ` Carlos O'Donell
     [not found]   ` <20141024093834.GA24090@host2.jankratochvil.net>
2014-10-24 14:22     ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-10-24 14:40       ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-10-24 15:00         ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-10-25  5:55         ` Rich Felker
2014-10-25  6:14           ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-10-25  6:26             ` Rich Felker
2014-10-24 15:56       ` Pedro Alves [this message]

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