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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] range stepping: gdb
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:58:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5193948A.9090609@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bo8c5pb7.fsf@gnu.org>

On 05/15/2013 02:46 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:39:05 +0100
>> From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
>> CC: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>>
>>> Doesn't this mean that these two use cases are explicit exceptions
>>> from the rule that END is excluded? 
>>
>> Nope.  There's no exception.
>>
>> With:
>>
>>   vCont ;r START,END
>>
>>  #1 - The stub single-steps the thread.
>>  #2 - Once the thread stops, the stub checks whether the thread
>>       stopped in the [START,END) range.  If so, goto #1.
>>       It not, goto #3.
>>  #3 - The stub reports to gdb that the thread stopped stepping.
>>
>> If it happens that START and END are the same, then #2 always
>> goes to #3.
> 
> I'm simulating a naive reader, while you are replying to someone you
> consider an experienced code developer ;-)  So we are talking past
> each other.

:-)

> When you say "END is the address of the first instruction beyond the
> step range", that means, simply put, that execution will always stop
> before it executes the instruction at END.  IOW, the instruction at
> END will _not_ be executed.  With that interpretation, a range
> [START,START) is _empty_ and will never execute any instructions at
> all.
> 
> It is OK to use a different interpretation, but then we should either
> (a) describe the semantics differently to begin with, or (b) explain
> that [START,START) is an exception.  You seem to object to (b), which
> then brings us back at (a), meaning that this text:
> 
>> +@var{end} is the address of the first instruction beyond the step
>> +range, and @strong{not} the address of the last instruction within it.
> 
> needs to be reworded, so as not to say that END is _beyond_ the range.

I see what you mean now.

> If you want a specific response for the algorithm you show above, then
> I would ask why does GDB single-step the stub at all, when START and
> END are equal?  The fact that we implemented this is a 'do-until' loop
> rather than a 'while' loop, i.e. test at the end instead of at the
> beginning, is an important implementation detail which must be present
> explicitly in the description of what this feature does.  

I agree.  This is the sort of detail I could see different stubs
ending up implementing differently, so I wanted to be sure it
was clearly specified.  Well, clearly I failed.  :-)

> The very need you felt to explain this is already a clear sign that
> the original description is wrong.

I'll try to come up with a better description.

Thanks!
-- 
Pedro Alves


  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-15 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-14 19:10 [PATCH 0/5 V3] target-assisted range stepping Pedro Alves
2013-05-14 19:10 ` [PATCH 2/5] Convert rs->support_vCont_t to a struct Pedro Alves
2013-05-14 19:40   ` Tom Tromey
2013-05-14 19:10 ` [PATCH 4/5] range stepping: gdbserver (x86 GNU/Linux) Pedro Alves
2013-05-14 19:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-14 20:14   ` Tom Tromey
2013-05-23 17:44     ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-24 11:33       ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-15 12:14   ` Yao Qi
2013-05-20 18:01     ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-23  0:56   ` Yao Qi
2013-05-23 17:26     ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-14 19:10 ` [PATCH 3/5] range stepping: gdb Pedro Alves
2013-05-14 19:46   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-15 10:23     ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-15 11:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-15 12:39         ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-15 13:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-15 13:58             ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2013-05-15 18:20               ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-16  6:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-20 18:43                   ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-20 19:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-23  0:47                     ` Yao Qi
2013-05-23 17:22                       ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-14 19:10 ` [PATCH 1/5] Factor out in-stepping-range checks Pedro Alves
2013-05-14 19:37   ` Tom Tromey
2013-05-14 19:11 ` [PATCH 5/5] range stepping: tests Pedro Alves
2013-05-22 14:32   ` Yao Qi
2013-05-23 17:34     ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-23 18:03     ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-24  2:27       ` Yao Qi
2013-05-24  9:45         ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-24  9:57           ` Yao Qi
2013-05-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 0/5 V3] target-assisted range stepping Tom Tromey
2013-05-23 17:44   ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-23  1:02 ` Yao Qi
2013-05-23 17:46   ` Pedro Alves

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