* Stepping down from several maintainership roles @ 2003-03-17 14:59 Fernando Nasser 2003-03-18 19:16 ` Frank Ch. Eigler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Fernando Nasser @ 2003-03-17 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: gdb-patches Hi folks, My new responsibilities in my job and the project I am working on are not allowing me to be responsive to the list requests. This will remain like that until the end of the Summer. The situation aggravated when I got sick and then had to rebuild my home system almost from scratch. So I am stepping down from several maintainership roles. I checked the changes to MAINTAINERS as obvious. I've marked some as "vacant" but the overall testsuite and command interpreter roles were devolved to the "Global Maintainers" as suggested by Andrew Cagney. Regards to all. -- Fernando Nasser Red Hat Canada Ltd. E-Mail: fnasser@redhat.com 2323 Yonge Street, Suite #300 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2C9 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping down from several maintainership roles 2003-03-17 14:59 Stepping down from several maintainership roles Fernando Nasser @ 2003-03-18 19:16 ` Frank Ch. Eigler 2003-03-21 20:20 ` David Carlton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Frank Ch. Eigler @ 2003-03-18 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fernando Nasser; +Cc: gdb-patches, fche fnasser wrote: > My new responsibilities in my job and the project I am working on > are not allowing me to be responsive to the list requests. This will > remain like that until the end of the Summer. [...] So I am > stepping down from several maintainership roles. [...] This is too bad. It appears that in order to solve the problem of insufficient time availability of maintainers, several of them have been nagged in order to get them to resign. These people having history and experience have been pressured into severing ties outright, making it likely that they spend even less time on gdb. How is this supposed to be progress? - FChE ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping down from several maintainership roles 2003-03-18 19:16 ` Frank Ch. Eigler @ 2003-03-21 20:20 ` David Carlton 2003-03-21 22:34 ` Andrew Cagney 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: David Carlton @ 2003-03-21 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Frank Ch. Eigler; +Cc: gdb-patches On 18 Mar 2003 14:16:52 -0500, fche@redhat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler) said: > fnasser wrote: >> My new responsibilities in my job and the project I am working on >> are not allowing me to be responsive to the list requests. This >> will remain like that until the end of the Summer. [...] So I am >> stepping down from several maintainership roles. [...] > This is too bad. It appears that in order to solve the problem of > insufficient time availability of maintainers, several of them have > been nagged in order to get them to resign. These people having > history and experience have been pressured into severing ties > outright, making it likely that they spend even less time on gdb. > How is this supposed to be progress? That was my reaction, too. On the other hand, on a purely pragrmatic level, going from having 1 maintainer in an area to having 0 maintainers in that area can be progress because it means that, all of a sudden, any global maintainer can approve a patch in that area. And removing maintainers from areas that, in practice, they'll never approve patches for, doesn't hurt anything, though I don't see why it helps anything either unless those maintainers no longer consider themselves competent to approve patches in those areas. Still, as I've said before, I would far prefer a solution that increases the number of local maintainers: I do not believe that all people competent to be local maintainers in various areas are, in fact, currently local maintainers, and I do believe that the current standard for becoming a local maintainer is too high. David Carlton carlton@math.stanford.edu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Stepping down from several maintainership roles 2003-03-21 20:20 ` David Carlton @ 2003-03-21 22:34 ` Andrew Cagney 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Andrew Cagney @ 2003-03-21 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Carlton; +Cc: Frank Ch. Eigler, gdb-patches David, An inactive maintainer, at some point, be it 6 months, or even two years of inactivity, needs recognize that they are no longer participating in GDB's day-to-day development and as such should probably step back from their maintenance roles. If doing this means that the role becomes vacant then that is a good thing. This is because having no maintainer removes any possible perception that the code is, in even the smallest way, being developed or maintained (c.f., java). With this in mind I'll, from time to time, ping GDB maintainers and ask them to review their current level of commitment to both GDB and the FSF, and consider droping an area of maintenance responsibility. Overall, I receive a very positive response to such requests. I personally appreciate such a level of professionalism, simply acknowledging this can be both difficult and painful. No one has been `pressured into severing ties outright'. Andrew ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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