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From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFA/mi-testsuite] XFAIL mi*-console.exp
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 13:49:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CACCA82.2090005@cygnus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020404001337.B11510@nevyn.them.org>

> On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:27:13PM -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
> 
>> >These tests are testing for a feature that exists either nowhere or just in
>> >simulators and some remote stubs: that the inferior's output goes through
>> >GDB and is properly encoded by the MI layer.  Since support isn't there for
>> >many remote debugging stubs or for native, I think these two tests should 
>> >be
>> >XFAIL'd.  Does that make sense, Andrew?  If so, OK to commit this?
> 
>> 
>> I believe GDB's rule for XFAIL is something that can't work (due to an 
>> external constraint) rather than doesn't work (due to a lack of code).
>> 
>> Hence it was marked as a known bug rather than a limitation.
> 
> 
> OK, so it isn't an XFAIL.  I don't think FAIL is really appropriate
> either; tests which test a not-yet-implemented feature (and one that I
> think is a bad idea, for native targets, to be honest) don't add any
> information by failing.  UNSUPPORTED perhaps?  Or just not running the
> test in native setups, for now?
Er, actually, XFAIL might be closer to the truth than UNSUPPORTED. 
Although neither indicate UNIMPLEMENTED.

Andrew

> Aside, fernando and I had a brief discussion about xfail vs unsupported and came up with the following concrete example.
> 
> Attach/detach:
> 
> FreeBSD has a bug in its detach, since at present it doesn't work but did in the past, and will again in the next release it will work, it gets marked as ``xfail'.  Next release it will mysteriously ``xpass'' and can be adjusted accordingly.
> 
> Cygwin, due to limitations in the underlying OS, simply wasn't able to support detach, it should be marked as ``unsupported''.  (As a foot note, recent versions of the underlying OS, did fix this limitation).



  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-04 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-02 16:42 Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-02 16:52 ` Michael Snyder
2002-04-02 17:01   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-02 17:22     ` Michael Snyder
2002-04-02 17:39       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-03  6:14         ` Fernando Nasser
2002-04-04  7:15           ` Fernando Nasser
2002-04-04  8:36             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-04 11:09             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-04-03 20:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-04-03 21:13   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-04 13:49     ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2002-04-04 13:53       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-06 15:04         ` Andrew Cagney
2002-04-04 16:55       ` Fernando Nasser
2002-04-05  6:49         ` Andrew Cagney
2002-04-05  7:22           ` Fernando Nasser
2002-04-05  7:23 Michael Elizabeth Chastain

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