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From: Pedro Alves <pedro_alves@portugalmail.pt>
To: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Cc: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,
	 Michael Snyder <msnyder@specifix.com>,
	 Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
Subject: Re: [RFA] set/show enable-software-singlestep
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:35:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200806251514.32422.pedro_alves@portugalmail.pt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080625125424.GC3700@adacore.com>

A Wednesday 25 June 2008 13:54:24, Joel Brobecker wrote:

> As discussed previously on gdb@, I think this is a useful feature
> even outside of reverse debugging.  Regarding Pedro's question
> about making this feature transparent, that would be tough for
> the example I gave, which is Tru64 - we want to be able to use
> s/w single-step only on programs that use threads. To make it automatic,
> we'd have to reliably detect that a program uses threads. Perhaps
> this is doable, but having the option is an easy first step. Later
> on, we can always extend the option to a tri-state with an "auto"
> setting if it helps...

I'm just curious about it,

I can't figure which targets are used in Tru64.  Is it ptrace based?
From your description of not being able to hw singlestep
threaded programs, I take it threads are user space?

I'm thinking what we want is the other way around.  Can the
target singlestep itself?  Software-singlestepping with breakpoints
is the current fallback mechanism.

Is there a thread_stratum target used to implement the
thread support?

If so, we may be able to add a target_can_singlestep
{ yes/no } property/method and have the thread target return
false, with the default implementation returning "false".

 - yes - the target takes care of singlestepping.
    for archs that don't have hw singlestep support, but the
    target (stub or kernel) handles it.  That's what a Tru64
    target should report.

 - no - even though the the kernel or stub (the debug API, that is)
   support single stepping, GDB should fake singlestepping if the
   arch doesn't support hw singlestepping.  (usually by using 
   software-singlestepping breakpoints but emulating   
   instructions is another possibility, possible, e.g., we
   don't have to care about simulating exceptions.)  This is the
   default, and corresponds to what we have currently).

Just a quick thought dump.  I'm not against the new knob.

-- 
Pedro Alves


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-25 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-24 18:43 Michael Snyder
2008-06-24 19:15 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-06-24 19:32   ` Michael Snyder
2008-06-25 13:22     ` Joel Brobecker
2008-06-25 13:43       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-06-25 14:15         ` Joel Brobecker
2008-06-25 14:33         ` Pedro Alves
2008-06-25 15:05           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-06-25 15:38             ` Pedro Alves
     [not found]               ` <1214862215.3601.1525.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2008-07-10  2:46                 ` Michael Snyder
2008-07-10 11:07                   ` Pedro Alves
2008-07-10 22:47                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-12  2:31                       ` Michael Snyder
2008-07-12  2:28                     ` Michael Snyder
2008-06-25 14:35       ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2008-06-25 14:42         ` Joel Brobecker
2008-06-24 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-24 19:34 ` Luis Machado
2008-06-24 20:22   ` Michael Snyder
2008-06-25  1:40 ` Pedro Alves
2008-06-25  6:15   ` Michael Snyder

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