From: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
To: eliz@gnu.org
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: RFA: Support Windows extended error numbers in safe_strerror
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:10:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200602082310.k18NAQNe027038@elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <umzh14iub.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:54:36 +0200)
> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:54:36 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>
> > Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:07:59 +0100 (CET)
> > From: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
> > CC: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
> >
> > I really think that we should drop MinGW support, and that the people
> > who want GDB on windows should work on fixing the apparent problems
> > with Cygwin.
> > [...]
> > My dislike for this stuff is probably there because where I've been
> > cleaning out much of the host-specific quirks, this MinGW support
> > seems to add back a lot special tweaks, and since Windows is so
> > different from Unix-like systems, there's absolutely no hope, things
> > can be unified. That, together with the reintroduction of xm.h, seems
> > like a giant leap backwards to me. I really don't like that xm.h is
> > back now, since it sets a precedent. People have used these files for
> > quick hacks in the past, and the new xm.h will make it harder to tell
> > people that's not acceptable. I think there is a better approach
> > though. How about having the implementation of safe_strerror() and
> > gdb_select() in mingw-hdep.c and move the (trivial) existing
> > implementations of these functions to a new posix-hdep.c?
> >
> > Speaking about gdb_select(), a really bad thing about your patch is
> > that we now have gdb_select(), but that some code still uses select()
> > and that the difference matters!
>
> Mark, can you please make up your mind whether you are talking about
> coding and design issues, or about ideology? If the problem is xm.h
> and the select vs gdb_select dichotomy, those are technical problems
> for which I have no doubt that we will find good solutions. In
> particular, I firmly believe, based in no small part on my experience
> of porting GNU software, that your fears of there being ``absolutely
> no hope'' to have clean sources _and_ MinGW support--that these fears
> have no real basis, because similar problems were solved elsewhere
> more than once.
>
> But if the problem is that you object in principle to having MinGW
> support as part of the official codebase, then no amount of coding by
> Daniel or anyone else will ever get your approval.
>
> Which one is it?
I'd rather see us drop the attempt to support MinGW, but if we don't I
want to make sure the MinGW support is integrated in such a way that
its impact on the rest of the code is as small as possible.
Mark
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-03 21:55 Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-03 23:25 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-03 23:39 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-04 3:27 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-04 6:29 ` Jim Blandy
2006-02-04 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 14:35 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-04 14:52 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-04 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-05 0:15 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-05 4:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-05 19:34 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-05 19:49 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-05 20:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-05 20:22 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-05 21:50 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-05 21:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-05 22:33 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-05 22:41 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-06 6:35 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-06 17:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-05 22:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-05 22:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-06 2:41 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-06 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-05 22:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-05 22:44 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-05 23:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-06 5:14 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-06 7:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-06 8:47 ` Corinna Vinschen
2006-02-06 12:07 ` Bob Rossi
2006-02-06 14:23 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-06 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 10:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-05 0:27 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-05 2:01 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-05 4:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-05 7:39 ` Jim Blandy
2006-02-05 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-05 20:20 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-05 22:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-06 2:38 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-05 4:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 1:06 ` Jim Blandy
2006-02-04 3:00 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-04 6:22 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2006-02-04 10:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 13:53 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-04 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 10:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 15:33 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-04 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 10:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 13:14 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-05 7:41 ` Jim Blandy
2006-03-02 0:53 ` Michael Snyder
2006-02-04 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 14:53 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-04 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-04 15:57 ` David Ayers
2006-02-06 17:35 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-06 17:54 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-06 18:23 ` Jim Blandy
2006-02-06 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-06 19:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-06 20:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-06 22:55 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-06 22:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-08 0:08 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-08 21:08 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-08 21:12 ` Bob Rossi
2006-02-08 23:17 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-08 23:23 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-09 0:12 ` Joel Brobecker
2006-02-09 1:54 ` Bob Rossi
2006-02-09 7:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-09 9:18 ` Jim Blandy
2006-02-08 21:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-08 23:10 ` Mark Kettenis [this message]
2006-02-08 23:22 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-09 14:40 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-09 15:14 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-09 20:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-09 8:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-09 14:44 ` Mark Kettenis
2006-02-09 14:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-09 20:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-09 21:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-09 22:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-09 20:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-09 22:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-10 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-10 16:18 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-10 16:49 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-10 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-10 21:56 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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