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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: jmolenda@apple.com, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: The gdb x86 function prologue parser
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:51:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050613225111.GC13598@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200506132234.j5DMYtxJ032694@elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl>

On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:34:55AM +0200, Mark Kettenis wrote:
>    From: Jason Molenda <jmolenda@apple.com>
>    Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:04:51 -0700
> 
>    Ah!  Now it starts to make sense.  I couldn't understand how this had  
>    been so untested. :)
> 
>    The one part I'm curious about -- does gdb get the CFI information  
>    out of gcc's eh_frame section or something?  How do developers debug  
>    KDE/GNOME applications, where many functions on their stack are from  
>    optimized libraries that don't have any debug info (except maybe  
>    eh_frame)?  It seems like these users should be tripping on these  
>    problems all the time.
> 
> Yup.  We prefer .debug_frame but if that's not available we suck in
> .eh_frame.  So anything that's compiled with -fexceptions (wich
> implies all C++ code) basically has usable CFI.

> I sometimes wonder whether people are using gdb at all...

(me too)

> ...then I find it incredibly stupid that vendors of an Open Source
> operating system ship libraries without debugging information.

More and more vendors are shipping libraries with optional debugging
information.  This is what objcopy --only-keep-debug was invented for. 
For Debian, I also have a couple of hacks to ship unwind information
for some libraries we don't want to provide debug information for by
default (like glibc).

If you install libc6-dbg, backtraces will suddenly Work Better.  No
other intervention required.

For the next release of Debian I hope we'll be using this feature even
more heavily.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
CodeSourcery, LLC


      reply	other threads:[~2005-06-13 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-08  5:51 Jason Molenda
2005-06-08 13:24 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-06-08 16:58   ` Jason Molenda
2005-06-12  7:48     ` Mark Kettenis
2005-06-12  8:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <3364FC4D-63FB-493B-9136-D118F74C13BB@mit.edu>
2005-06-12 13:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-12 14:28             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-06-13 18:21             ` Michael Snyder
2005-06-13 19:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-08 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-08 17:01   ` Jason Molenda
2005-06-08 18:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-08 19:58   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-06-09  6:26     ` Jason Molenda
2005-06-09  9:02       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-06-10 20:23         ` Michael Snyder
2005-06-12  7:57       ` Mark Kettenis
2005-06-10 20:29   ` Michael Snyder
2005-06-10 21:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-12  7:07 ` Mark Kettenis
2005-06-12  8:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-13 22:04   ` Jason Molenda
2005-06-13 22:35     ` Mark Kettenis
2005-06-13 22:51       ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]

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