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From: Paul Koning <Paul_Koning@dell.com>
To: pedro@codesourcery.com
Cc: gdb@sourceware.org,     gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [remote protocol] support for disabling packet acknowledgement
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18550.22660.364998.466763@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200807101823.13728.pedro@codesourcery.com>

>>>>> "Pedro" == Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com> writes:

 Pedro> Hi, This patch adds support to the remote protocol to disable
 Pedro> packet acknowlegment.  This is useful when the transport being
 Pedro> used is itself reliable, e.g., TCP/IP.  In these cases, by
 Pedro> removing the acking we reduce the amount of roundtrips, and
 Pedro> decrease the communication latency.

I'm not sure this is a good idea.

For one thing, if you want to work on performance, there are much more
dramatic changes to the protocol that could be done that would help
much more.  I can't believe that the cost of acks is significant
compared to all the other bottlenecks.

Also, TCP is reliable delivery at the transport layer.  It doesn't do
reliable delivery at the application layer -- that's what the gdb
remote protocol ACKs do.  The fact that TCP delivered a packet to the
stub doesn't mean the stub acted on it.

     paul


  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-10 17:23 Pedro Alves
2008-07-10 18:44 ` Paul Koning [this message]
2008-07-10 19:08   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-25 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-11 19:40 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-10 18:59 Sandra Loosemore
2008-07-10 19:09 ` Paul Koning
2008-07-10 19:59   ` Sandra Loosemore
2008-07-10 20:13     ` Paul Koning
2008-07-10 22:33       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11  0:22         ` Sandra Loosemore
2008-07-11  0:43           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11 13:43         ` Paul Koning
2008-07-11 14:35           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
     [not found]       ` <20080710223312.GA19058__14539.8706700236$1215729298$gmane$org@caradoc.them.org>
2008-07-11  3:05         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-11  3:25           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11 15:11       ` Pedro Alves
2008-07-11 15:24         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11 15:54           ` Paul Koning
2008-07-11 17:59             ` Pedro Alves
2008-07-11 18:54               ` Paul Koning
2008-07-11 19:10                 ` Pedro Alves
2008-07-25 13:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-25 14:14   ` Sandra Loosemore
2008-07-26  5:54     ` Eli Zaretskii

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