From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: torvalds@linux-foundation.org (Linus Torvalds) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:15:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [ltt-dev] [RFC git tree] Userspace RCU (urcu) for Linux (repost) In-Reply-To: <20090212203924.GK6759@linux.vnet.ibm.com> References: <20090211214258.GA32407@Krystal> <20090212003549.GU6694@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090212023308.GA21157@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090212040824.GA12346@Krystal> <20090212050120.GA8317@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090212070539.GA15896@Krystal> <20090212164621.GC6759@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090212192941.GC2047@Krystal> <20090212200249.GG6759@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20090212203924.GK6759@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > In other words, you are arguing for using ACCESS_ONCE() in the loops, > but keeping the old ACCESS_ONCE() definition, and declaring BF hardware > broken? Well, I _also_ argue that if you have a busy loop, you'd better have a cpu_relax() in there somewhere anyway. If you don't, you have a bug. So I think the BF approach is "borderline broken", but I think it should work, if BF just has whatever appropriate cache flush in its cpu_relax. Linus