From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: pbonzini@redhat.com (Paolo Bonzini) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:39:17 +0100 Subject: [ltt-dev] [PATCH 2/2] introduce uatomic_and and uatomic_or In-Reply-To: <20101112122939.GA30826@Krystal> References: <1289552247-18130-1-git-send-email-pbonzini@redhat.com> <1289552247-18130-3-git-send-email-pbonzini@redhat.com> <20101112120846.GB27929@Krystal> <4CDD2F69.7020407@redhat.com> <20101112121900.GA29642@Krystal> <4CDD31E7.1050500@redhat.com> <20101112122939.GA30826@Krystal> Message-ID: <4CDD5195.4010308@redhat.com> On 11/12/2010 01:29 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > * Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini at redhat.com) wrote: >> On 11/12/2010 01:19 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: >>> * Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini at redhat.com) wrote: >>>> Return nothing can be useful because it can be optimized on x86 >>>> as "lock orl (mem), reg/imm". However, there are no other >>>> return-nothing atomic ops in uatomic_*.h so I decided not to >>>> provide this. >>>> >>> >>> How about we start by implementing uatomic_and/uatomic_or that >>> return void, and if we ever need >>> uatomic_return_and/uatomic_return_or (see my other mail), we add >>> them ? >> >> I am using uatomic_or's return value in my call_rcu-with-futex, but >> I don't need atomic-or-and-exchange really, I can even change it to >> a load followed by an atomic or (it introduces a race but it is >> benign). > > If the race does not matter, why do we need the new atomic op in the > first place ? ;) Say the "correct" code would be atomic x = *p, *p |= FLAG1; # uatomic_xchg_or if (x & ~FLAG2) futex_wake (...) I may try to rewrite it like this: x = *p; # 1 atomic *p |= FLAG1; # 2, uatomic_or if (x & ~FLAG2) futex_wake (...) This is racy because something can set or reset FLAG2 between 1 and 2. Setting it may cause spurious wakeups, which are okay. If I know that nothing can reset FLAG2 between 1 and 2, correctness is preserved. Instead if I remove atomicity, I get races on read-modify-write operations, and that is much more obviously incorrect. But I really do not like being tricky (futexes are tricky enough on their own), and rather than spending a lot of time proving this correct I'd probably just use cmpxchg here. Paolo