From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25082 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 2008 09:47:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 25074 invoked by uid 22791); 2 Aug 2008 09:47:42 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il (HELO mtaout5.012.net.il) (84.95.2.13) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:47:19 +0000 Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.228.238]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0K4Y00EGOWGT3Z20@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for gdb@sources.redhat.com; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:46:06 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:47:00 -0000 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: Move GDB to C++ ? In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Vladimir Prus Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: <487658F7.1090508@earthlink.net> <200808020954.58589.vladimir@codesourcery.com> X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2008-08/txt/msg00043.txt.bz2 > From: Vladimir Prus > Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:22:07 +0400 I'm sorry, I cannot continue this discussion any further. I was asked for my opinion, and I gave it. I then was dragged into a prolonged discussion to justify my opinion on how such decisions should be made. I feel I said already everything I had to say on this matter, and anyone who wants to understand what I say has just to read my messages. Please also note that at no point I said I was against the switch. My point was that I don't see the goal, and without a goal I cannot judge whether the switch is justified. Vladimir says, in essence, that the goal is to give some maintainers a development environment in which they think they will be more productive. In my experience, developers usually have very skewed estimates of their productivity (this includes myself, when I develop code), so basing long-range decisions on such estimates is a recipe for bad decisions.