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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
Cc: jimb@codesourcery.com, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: GDB and scripting languages - which
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:01:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uwt2k4op8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070214155620.GA7098@caradoc.them.org> (message from Daniel 	Jacobowitz on Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:56:20 -0500)

> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:56:20 -0500
> From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
> Cc: Jim Blandy <jimb@codesourcery.com>, gdb@sourceware.org
> 
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 05:41:06PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > Even if the exception issue is worked out, though, I'm still concerned
> > > that Lua doesn't have as much momentum as Python.  Python's wealth of
> > > other libraries available (gui; graphing; networking) brings a lot of
> > > potential with it.  And there are a lot of programmers out there who
> > > could just start scripting GDB the day Python support is committed.
> > 
> > Python is a full-fledged programming language, not a language created
> > for extending other programs.  Do you really think we need networking,
> > graphics, and GUI in GDB scripts?  That sounds like an awful overhead.
> 
> None of that's in the core of Python, you'll notice.  It's all in
> modules.  Some of those for networking are standard modules, but none
> of it would be linked in to GDB.

I only talked about them because Jim did, and I assumed that he
mentioned those because he thought it was important to have them in
GDB.

> But in any case those aren't the
> ones I had in mind: I was thinking of things like XML, text
> processing, and high-performance numerics.

More details would help make this discussion more constructive.  How
``high-performance'' should our numerics be, and why?  Do you have any
quantitative criteria?

As for text processing, what features do you think we need,
specifically?

> Based on this discussion, I think we probably won't convince you that
> Python is the best choice.

Why do you think so?  I certainly didn't dismiss anyone's arguments as
easily as others dismiss mine.  The only real argument in favor of
Python that I heard was that it's widely used and known.  That's not a
lot to become convinced, since what I'm suggesting is not some unknown
language either, or something invented just now.

> Do you think that Python would be a bad choice with serious negative
> consequences?

Python is an excellent language, so choosing it cannot possibly be bad
or have serious negative consequences.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-14 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-08 22:20 Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-01-08 22:39 ` Kip Macy
2007-01-08 22:42   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-01-08 23:03     ` Kip Macy
2007-01-08 22:40 ` Bob Rossi
2007-01-09 20:11 ` Jim Blandy
2007-01-09 20:23   ` Bob Rossi
2007-01-09 21:37     ` Paul Koning
2007-01-09 21:42       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-01-09 21:48       ` Nick Roberts
2007-01-09 21:53         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-01-11  4:31           ` Nick Roberts
2007-01-11  5:06             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-01-13  8:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-09 21:55         ` Kip Macy
2007-01-11 14:56       ` Robert Dewar
2007-01-11 15:07         ` Robert Dewar
2007-01-09 20:30   ` Mark Kettenis
2007-01-13  8:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-10 12:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-10 18:10     ` Pedro Alves
2007-02-10 20:33     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-12 17:47       ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-12 21:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-12 21:59           ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-12 22:07             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-12 22:07               ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-14  5:57           ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-14 15:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-14 16:01               ` Paul Koning
2007-02-14 17:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-14 16:06               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-14 18:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2007-02-14 18:45                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-14 17:37               ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-14 18:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-14 18:29                   ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-14 18:33                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-14 18:34                       ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-14 20:14                     ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-14 20:56                       ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-14 21:47                         ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-14 21:23                       ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-14 21:46                         ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-14 20:10               ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-15  1:03                 ` Gaius Mulley
2007-02-17 13:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-17 14:07                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-18  4:11                     ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-19 22:17                       ` Jim Blandy
2007-01-15 18:29 Kaz Kylheku
2007-01-15 21:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-16  0:17   ` Kip Macy
2007-01-17 19:09 ` Jim Blandy
2007-01-16  0:38 Kaz Kylheku
2007-01-17 19:24 ` Jim Blandy

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