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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Vladimir Prus <ghost@cs.msu.su>
Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: MI -break-info command issues
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:48:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ulkx2en42.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dr9s4n$rsf$1@sea.gmane.org> (message from Vladimir Prus on Thu, 	26 Jan 2006 10:01:43 +0300)

> From:  Vladimir Prus <ghost@cs.msu.su>
> Date:  Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:01:43 +0300
> 
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> >> The extra information doesn't pertain to breakpoint itself, it's gdb
> >> opinion on formatting and is hardly usefull for machine interface. IMO,
> >> of course.
> > 
> > This output is produced by the UI-independent output functions.  So
> > judging its usefulness from the point of view of a GUI is taking a too
> > narrow view.  The advantage of ui_out routines is that ....
> 
> I'm actually talking about MI *protocol*.

What ``protocol''?

> I think that usefulness of that
> should be judged from the point of view of its intended clients -- that are
> frontends, which nowdays means GUI. If MI is protocol specifically designed
> for some task, then it should not include some fields just because TUI
> needs those fields.

You may, of course, unilaterally decide that GDB/MI was (or should be)
meant for GUIs only, but that's not what it actually is about, as far
as GDB development is concerned.

> > whoever writes 
> > the code defines the layout once, and then each UI gleans whatever it
> > needs from the results.  The programmer who wrote the code does not
> > need to bother which UI needs what information.  Yes, that means some
> > of the info will be redundant or useless for certain types of UI, but
> > that's by design, and I think the advantages of a single interface far
> > outweigh the small annoyances of having to read and discard unused
> > parts of the output.
> 
> Why can't MI layer weed out unnecessary information?

And we are back to the beginning of this discussion, sigh...


  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-26 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-24 14:22 Vladimir Prus
2006-01-24 14:48 ` Bob Rossi
2006-01-24 15:02   ` Vladimir Prus
2006-01-24 21:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-24 23:35     ` Bob Rossi
2006-01-25 16:05     ` Vladimir Prus
2006-01-25 19:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-26 12:09         ` Vladimir Prus
2006-01-26 20:48           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2006-01-27 12:16             ` Vladimir Prus
2006-01-27 14:55               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-27 15:00                 ` Bob Rossi
2006-01-27 15:12                 ` Vladimir Prus
2006-01-27 15:48                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-01-27 15:51                     ` Vladimir Prus
2006-01-27 16:11                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-01-27 16:01                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-01-27 16:44                         ` Vladimir Prus
2006-01-27 17:00                           ` Bob Rossi
2006-02-10 12:03                             ` Documenting MI stability (Was: MI -break-info command issues) Vladimir Prus
2006-01-27 17:41                           ` MI -break-info command issues Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-27 17:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-27 17:53                         ` Bob Rossi
2006-01-28 14:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-27 17:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-17 17:07                     ` -data-read-memory docs (Was: MI -break-info command issues) Vladimir Prus
2006-03-18 11:26                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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