From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id GxOZCHvLMmqzHgwAWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2026 12:29:47 -0400 Authentication-Results: simark.ca; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=tdcpX9Sh; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id 12C9E1E070; Wed, 17 Jun 2026 12:29:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on simark.ca X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ARC_SIGNED,ARC_VALID,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,THIS_AD autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Received: from vm01.sourceware.org (vm01.sourceware.org [IPv6:2620:52:6:3111::32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F8351E070 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2026 12:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vm01.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFA44BA23D0 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2026 16:29:44 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 7AFA44BA23D0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sourceware.org; s=default; t=1781713784; bh=A7Z5e4ce92xXN/9uaSVqDNCIoqWYalmKoB3RKZeLNUs=; h=To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From:Reply-To:From; b=tdcpX9ShDYGZRpvUyyzG3J4wN3C5aCdBvwhHEjWLNmmpElvHGFgnO0WUOBD2ApC9T EL4IWnew7OBpvelHJUQgfIii8rMwE3Ya0zZdKwjwoOIikko2NANf47ZZ8268byu1Ir K6nHKqMvRNYabz1FUksk1VQXQ96WtdLAcgFrWuws= Received: from eggs.gnu.org (eggs.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142:3::10]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C983E4BA5436; Wed, 17 Jun 2026 16:29:10 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org C983E4BA5436 ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org C983E4BA5436 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1781713750; cv=none; b=PSp7fT0vgEm2TXIH5EgGsnqo2cHZBRwa+AZhMey1XhtjO5S2kriDu1++LVggpCmKiHqlDslL2BgZ0/75X7zN5ZvRp0QjuzXtp1ZBwVrj+qRQ7XjRcdgCEkZ4mhB1up7K3ruGovPsuLyaHdxKDRKwyllv2Yak/8QUfs7lUPSalVI= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1781713750; c=relaxed/simple; bh=XTlTNC/YNVgHk2QptTpBb+1QpnKFVQfOQeR3qbt3L64=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=KRhNjdLmKq9OQGXFmnE7aKLit9xzJ1m6+NQ8G9jbRK/FOpMOVX5+K+SfI5dcaXKYjEgQtTYZ9PYWoZC8FYtSxYPtddHoV+4e6lmxpNUREFKcUYJHI1HBRHL6zTzKM4Ycplx/CiFA1lhaaDK/en4Thz1jier5sCzkRro0628Xm3Q= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org C983E4BA5436 Received: from linux-libre.fsfla.org ([2001:470:142:5::54] helo=free.home) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1wZt8W-0000Ig-Rm; Wed, 17 Jun 2026 12:29:09 -0400 Received: from livre (livre.home [172.31.160.2]) by free.home (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 65HGSvZA201148 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 17 Jun 2026 13:28:58 -0300 To: "Carlos O'Donell" Cc: Mark Wielaard , Andrew Pinski , Adhemerval Zanella Netto , glibc developers , gdb developers Subject: Re: Nominations for =?utf-8?Q?Anthropic=E2=80=99s?= Claude for Open Source program Organization: Free thinker, not speaking for the GNU Project References: <5c2e18dd-807c-4331-b12c-a5b17b256f5b@linaro.org> <32efa4408237f7c0c19be0aa79c8f75a2df6e2ab.camel@klomp.org> <5158b893-6bb4-4856-acc8-876157671f34@redhat.com> <20260616110344.GI6729@gnu.wildebeest.org> <7cf212fa-e432-4603-bfec-33a2923a9b21@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 13:28:57 -0300 In-Reply-To: <7cf212fa-e432-4603-bfec-33a2923a9b21@redhat.com> (Carlos O'Donell's message of "Tue, 16 Jun 2026 09:53:50 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Alexandre Oliva via Gdb Reply-To: Alexandre Oliva Errors-To: gdb-bounces~public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" On Jun 16, 2026, "Carlos O'Donell" wrote: > There is no hard bright line that distinguishes between what you call > advertising and talking about the options. I can agree with that statement. There is room for judgment calls, and there is room for disagreement about judgment calls. Now, if it was another mailing list member forwarding spam that advertised a 30-days-gratis bait for a service entirely misaligned with the purposes of GNU in general and of GNU libc specifically, to the point of opposing those purposes, would you still be favorable to it? Has Anthropic at least made a donation to the GNU Toolchain fund to pay for this advertisement, or are we such losers that we advertise such traps free of charge, and even fight over whether polluting our forum with their spam is appropriate? Will your stance change when bots subscribe to these lists, and then start posting advertisement targeted at our developers but otherwise bearing no relationship with the project? Will you then call for such spam to be blocked, or will we all have to endure it because some day you decreed that it was ok? > Where I draw the line, and where it can be drawn is in what we write down > in our documentation, likewise in our process. Our mailing lists are part of the project as well, and people who take part in the project or even lead it are expected to behave in line with the project, rather than against it, at the very least when participating in project fora and activities. Advertising services antagonic to and destructive of user freedom is really way out of line. -- Alexandre Oliva, happy hacker https://blog.lx.oliva.nom.br/ Free Software Activist FSFLA co-founder GNU Toolchain Engineer Learn the truth about Richard Stallman at https://stallmansupport.org/