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From: Eli Schwartz via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
To: "Tomasz Kłoczko" <kloczko.tomasz@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Wielaard" <mark@klomp.org>
Cc: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: gdb and ancient GNU autotools
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:46:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef937ce6-dc3f-4831-b318-4aa0488fcd27@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABB28CwhHkHXAbV3zRpLvegmqPRoG9iftU5R-xPa+M+1ex5yUA@mail.gmail.com>


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On 2/25/24 7:29 PM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 23:32, Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Offlist you said that you didn't really got throttled because of those
>> 8 packages you have that are hosted on sourceware none of them need
>> many patches in the first place. So it isn't clear to me if we are
>> actually discussing a real issue or if you are just worried that you
>> could have an issue in theory.
>>
> 
> So .. more than a decade of not updating gdb build automation to be able
> use it with latest GNU autotools tooling is NOT THE REAL ISSUE?🤔
> Really?
> And .. sincerely thank you for your "argumentum ad hominem".


Instead of accusing people of not updating the gdb build automation in
"more than a decade", I would like to invite you to reread the previous
messages in this thread. In particular, it appears you accidentally
skipped over my previous message, in which I said:

----------------------


The main topic is a rant about how GDB but actually the several projects
sharing the same build system, do NOT have the resources right at this
second to update the Autoconf in use, from:
- autoconf 2.69 (the latest version as of December 2020)

to:
- autoconf 2.72 (the latest version as of February 2024)


----------------------


Notice that the currently in use gdb build automation is from 3 and a
bit years ago, not a decade.


> I found that gdb autoconf has some issue with ncurses detection when
> ncurses source code is configured before compiling in some exact way.
> I'm able to fix that but *I'm not able to test the result of that fix*
> (before possible sending PR) because *I'm not able to regenerate all gdb
> build automation .. because for more than decade that gdb automation update
> has been postponed by any cost*.


It hasn't been a decade...

But you can also report a bug and show the patches, then ask if someone
else can help you test it.

I've never seen a project with a complex build system bootstrap that
wasn't both:

- understanding of the challenge it imposes on contributors

- extremely willing to help contributors test their patches when the
  bootstrap defeated them


-- 
Eli Schwartz

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-26  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-24 16:28 Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-24 16:51 ` Sam James via Gdb
2024-02-24 17:15   ` Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-24 17:21     ` Sam James via Gdb
2024-02-24 18:30       ` Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-24 19:31         ` Mark Wielaard
2024-02-25  0:22           ` Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-25  7:56             ` Mark Wielaard
2024-02-25  8:05             ` Eli Schwartz via Gdb
2024-02-25 10:40               ` Mark Wielaard
2024-02-25 21:19                 ` Eli Schwartz via Gdb
2024-02-25 21:50                   ` Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-25 22:20                     ` Andreas Schwab
2024-02-25 23:32                     ` Mark Wielaard
2024-02-26  0:29                       ` Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-26  0:46                         ` Eli Schwartz via Gdb [this message]
2024-02-26  0:55                           ` Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-26 11:44                         ` Mark Wielaard
2024-02-26 12:13                           ` Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-26  0:26                     ` Eli Schwartz via Gdb
2024-02-27 15:25         ` Tom Tromey
2024-02-27 16:37         ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2024-02-27 17:33           ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2024-02-27 17:42             ` Tom Tromey
2024-02-27 20:44             ` Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-27 20:57               ` Tomasz Kłoczko via Gdb
2024-02-27 20:59               ` Sam James via Gdb
2024-02-26  0:58 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2024-02-27 15:27   ` Tom Tromey

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