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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Buettner <kevinb@redhat.com>, gdb@sourceware.org
Cc: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>,
	Philippe Waroquiers <philippe.waroquiers@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: / (slash) command : fast way to temporarily change setting(s) to run a command
Date: Fri, 03 May 2019 08:23:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d96f6319-0651-6765-321f-476667c79cea@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190502201055.04bd9766@f29-4.lan>

On 5/3/19 4:10 AM, Kevin Buettner wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:52:43 -0700
> John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/17/19 1:14 AM, Kevin Buettner wrote:
>>> My first reaction to this proposal was that '/' is already used in
>>> some commands to modify their behavior.  E.g. "print", "display", and
>>> "x" all use /FMT to change the way that data is formatted.
>>>
>>> That said, '/' seems to be used in only a handful of commands.  It
>>> may be that its use is confined to the ones already mentioned.
>>>
>>> I see that the "interrupt" command allows the use of -a to modify
>>> its behavior.  Most commands have no modifiers at all.
>>>
>>> I don't have a serious objection to Philippe's proposal, but I do
>>> think that we ought to consider whether use of '/' in this context
>>> might be confusing to the user.  Might some other character or command
>>> name be less confusing?  I don't know the answer to this, but I do
>>> think it's something which should be pondered before making this
>>> proposal a part of GDB's CLI.  
>>
>> I find using / to make sense actually.  A leading / applies "global"
>> settings to the following command, so you have a general syntax that
>> is something like:
>>
>> [/global settings] [command] [/command-specific settings] [arguments]
>>
>> Where moving from left to right consistently "narrows" the scope.
>> This is not unlike the syntax used in certain command line programs
>> that reuse getopt-like interfaces for subcommand options while also
>> supporting "global" options.  git is an example of this (you have
>> global options before the verb and then command-specific options
>> after the verb both of which use the same getopt syntax) as well as
>> svn, etc.
> 
> I like this rationale for the global / command.
> 
> I'd like to wait a bit longer before reviewing Philippe's patch, however.
> I know that one of my colleagues has some thoughts on the interface
> and I'd like to give him a little extra time to express them here...

That was me.  :-)  See here:

 https://sourceware.org/ml/gdb-patches/2019-05/msg00002.html

I'll follow up when I have a chance.  Yesterday I fixed the
regressions that Philippe pointed at (fixes already in the branch) -- I
wanted to see if it was possible to get to a clean slate for better
experimenting / better ground for discussion.

Thanks,
Pedro Alves


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-03  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1555313564.1473.2.camel@skynet.be>
2019-04-16  3:06 ` Simon Marchi
2019-04-16  6:48   ` Philippe Waroquiers
2019-04-16 12:20     ` Simon Marchi
2019-04-16 21:22       ` Philippe Waroquiers
2019-04-17  8:14 ` Kevin Buettner
2019-04-17 20:59   ` Philippe Waroquiers
2019-04-19 16:52   ` John Baldwin
2019-05-03  3:10     ` Kevin Buettner
2019-05-03  8:23       ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2019-05-03  9:10         ` Philippe Waroquiers

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