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([2804:14c:4a2:807a:ceeb:5cbd:4641:e2f2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-27ed66d090bsm157402515ad.13.2025.09.30.04.22.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Sep 2025 04:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 08:22:08 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bugzilla keyword for beginner issues to work on To: Jonathan Wakely , Dhruv Chawla Cc: Sam James , Andrew Pinski , gcc@gcc.gnu.org, gdb@sourceware.org, binutils@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org References: <87wm5g2xcr.fsf@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-MFC-PROC-ID: qK9iZGLkzCXwXU47pqB6KyS_lhXFuBClF0ZHyv0VNUc_1759231335 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Guinevere Larsen via Gdb Reply-To: Guinevere Larsen Errors-To: gdb-bounces~public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" On 9/30/25 6:04 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Tue, 30 Sept 2025 at 09:39, Dhruv Chawla via Gcc wrote: >> On 30/09/25 13:19, Sam James via Gcc wrote: >>> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments >>> >>> >>> Andrew Pinski writes: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> As talked about during the GNU tools cauldron, the gdb and gcc >>>> keywords usage here are different but folks mentioned it would be a >>>> good idea to have the same between the 2 bugzilla instances. Right now >>>> gcc is easyhack while gdb uses good-first-bug. Both have issues with >>>> the naming of each. >>> 'good-first-*' is what people tend to search for in other >>> projects. Having it aligned (and optimising for new contributors) makes >>> sense, I think. >>> >>>> [...] >>> sam >> +1 to this. I feel like "beginner-improvement" and "easyhack" are harder to >> parse than "good-first-bug" or "good-first-issue" (which LLVM uses FWIW), and >> it is not immediately obvious to me what either of them mean. > Yeah, I really don't care that somebody might decide to work on a > "good first issue" as their second or third issue. It would still a > good first one for somebody else, it just happens to be that person's > second or third. > > "beginner-improvement" is too long, and I had the same question as > Florian about who or what is being improved. > I am not a fan of easy-hack, and I find good-first-bug mentally longer because it is one more word (even if fewer characters). However, I don't really mind how wordy it is because bugzilla can autofill the options based on the partial typing, so I don't care about wordiness I like beginner-improvement and I'm fine with good-first-bug. If would-be contributors are already searching for one, we should definitely standardize on the one that is already searched (or at least match the beginning). I'll try to see if I can look up what kernel, QEMU and other systems engineering projects use. -- Cheers, Guinevere Larsen It/she