From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14433 invoked by alias); 5 Feb 2018 19:04:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 14404 invoked by uid 89); 5 Feb 2018 19:04:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_RED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy= X-Spam-User: qpsmtpd, 2 recipients X-HELO: relay1.mentorg.com Received: from relay1.mentorg.com (HELO relay1.mentorg.com) (192.94.38.131) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 19:04:17 +0000 Received: from nat-ies.mentorg.com ([192.94.31.2] helo=svr-ies-mbx-01.mgc.mentorg.com) by relay1.mentorg.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:256) id 1eim3r-0006xk-QC from joseph_myers@mentor.com ; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:04:15 -0800 Received: from digraph.polyomino.org.uk (137.202.0.87) by svr-ies-mbx-01.mgc.mentorg.com (139.181.222.1) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Mon, 5 Feb 2018 19:04:04 +0000 Received: from jsm28 (helo=localhost) by digraph.polyomino.org.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eim3f-0003rO-Up; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 19:04:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 19:04:00 -0000 From: Joseph Myers To: Yao Qi CC: GDB , GDB Patches Subject: Re: Stop updating ChangeLog? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-ClientProxiedBy: svr-ies-mbx-01.mgc.mentorg.com (139.181.222.1) To svr-ies-mbx-01.mgc.mentorg.com (139.181.222.1) X-SW-Source: 2018-02/txt/msg00031.txt.bz2 On Mon, 5 Feb 2018, Yao Qi wrote: > P.S. I found that this topic has been discussed several times in > various projects (binutils, glibc, etc) without any conclusions. I do > hope we can make some progress this time :) All those places are the wrong place for actually effecting any change other than (c) (generating ChangeLog files at release time having been permitted by the GNU Coding Standards for over 20 years). The correct place for discussion of whether the ChangeLog format is useful generically for GNU projects is the bug-standards list, continuing the discussion that has been going on intermittently since I started it on 28 July last year. If that discussion results in a GCS change along the lines I proposed (that is, removing the requirement for ChangeLog format), then individual projects can consider what commit log format is most useful for them. -- Joseph S. Myers joseph@codesourcery.com