From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id +G3TFpNMPGMiegUAWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 11:09:07 -0400 Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5A2CF1E112; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 11:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: simark.ca; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=nhQ+RHlz; dkim-atps=neutral X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on simark.ca X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Received: from sourceware.org (server2.sourceware.org [8.43.85.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17AEA1E0D5 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 11:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DF43851AB5 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 15:09:06 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 86DF43851AB5 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sourceware.org; s=default; t=1664896146; bh=lqaEZDE8zx+Ap6scZ9E3hKVGt7IZoWzfAffnz57fAGE=; h=Date:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Cc: From; b=nhQ+RHlzaN9zb0lWx8AG1n917DG7GvNPodu0wOHGEBKqW3/DBag3rKl5dDegWree+ XxVvEQ6IqKi4ByixBPCTQQqCcmYjPV3F6haDa8PotIR8jkxJ+TdIeF/xuj1l3WOItQ 3BeXd/WsFRAVWxqs4GE8akTy5B485zp7QylLlJCU= Received: from elastic.org (elastic.org [96.126.110.187]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2267F3858CDA; Tue, 4 Oct 2022 15:07:38 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 2267F3858CDA Received: from vpn-home.elastic.org ([10.0.0.2] helo=elastic.org) by elastic.org with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1ofjW7-00081V-2h; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 15:07:31 +0000 Received: from very.elastic.org ([192.168.1.1]) by elastic.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1ofjW7-000NZR-1k; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 11:07:31 -0400 Received: from fche by very.elastic.org with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1ofjW7-00E5pl-1Y; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 11:07:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 11:07:31 -0400 To: Siddhesh Poyarekar Subject: Re: The GNU Toolchain Infrastructure Project Message-ID: References: <6f6d141b-b776-8707-2c91-dc38d20aa9e1@gotplt.org> <9ec804c9-1bbe-42ac-07a4-69df5c83b559@gotplt.org> <20221004141900.GA15858@redhat.com> <20221004144114.GB15858@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Sender-Verification: "" X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: "Frank Ch. Eigler via Gdb" Reply-To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, Overseers mailing list , libc-alpha@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org, Mark Wielaard , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , binutils@sourceware.org Errors-To: gdb-bounces+public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" Hi - > > I'm afraid I don't understand then what the point of comparing to LLVM > > with respect to competitiveness or freedom was. AIUI, infrastructure > > is an enabler, not really a competitive differentiator. > > I suppose that's a difference in our perception then. I think of > infrastructure as an accelerator and not just an enabler, which > makes it a serious competitive differentiator. Okay, we'd love to hear ideas for infrastructure changes that would result in accelerating your work as developers. - FChE