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From: Jean-Marc Saffroy <saffroy@gmail.com>
To: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: how could gdb handle truncated core files?
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:55:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0808261803230.5290@erda.mds> (raw)

Hi,

For now, gdb does not seem to be able to do anything useful with a 
truncated core file on Linux (ie. what you get when your process dies and 
the core size limit is not 0 but less than the size of the process).

In a number of cases, I think it would be nice to be able to at least get 
a stack trace, and examine local variables. This could require a limited 
amount of data to be dumped by the kernel.

I'm curious what could be done to improve this situation, because I see 
two potential use cases:
  - embedded systems developpers: sometimes it's hard to find enough space 
to write your core file (eg. the application uses 80% of your RAM, and 
your only writable filesystem is a tiny temporary RAM disk)
  - parallel application developpers on large clusters: sometimes you use a 
huge amount of RAM in a bunch of processes (eg. an MPI parallel program), 
and dumping all that on your home directory will fill your disk quota 
and/or keep your file server busy for a very long time

In search of a solution, I patched my Linux kernel so that dumping a core 
would start with the segments that hold a stack (assuming user stack 
pointers are valid): thus these segments have a chance of being dumped 
before the core limit is reached.

This approach gives interesting results with a (very simple) single 
threaded process. However, my attempts with a multithreaded process 
failed, like this:

$ gdb <binary> <core>
GNU gdb 6.8
<snip>
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu"...
Cannot access memory at address 0x2aaaaabc29c8
(gdb) bt
#0  0x00002aaaaabc9345 in ?? ()
#1  0x00000000400179f0 in ?? ()
#2  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

That is:
  - gdb does not load symbols from binaries
  - as a result, gdb does not detect threads (because IIRC libthread_db 
would be loaded when some libpthread.so symbols are detected in the 
process)
  - the backtrace seems incorrect: if I have a "full" core dump, gdb shows 
the following stack trace:

(gdb) bt
#0  0x00002aaaaabc9345 in pthread_create@@GLIBC_2.2.5 ()
    from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00000000004005c8 in main (argc=<value optimized out>,
     argv=<value optimized out>) at thrcore.c:24

So, I have the following questions to the community:
  - what can I do (eg. in my kernel patch) to have gdb load symbols from 
binaries?
  - do you have any comment on my approach? (eg. I *think* I've seen AIX 
produce small dumps, but I have no idea how they do it, if it's a special 
file format, etc.)

Thanks for your comments!


Cheers,
Jean-Marc

-- 
saffroy@gmail.com


             reply	other threads:[~2008-08-27 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-28 13:55 Jean-Marc Saffroy [this message]
2008-08-29  1:55 ` Paul Koning
2008-08-29 16:30 ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2008-08-29 17:46   ` Jean-Marc Saffroy

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