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From: Paul Marquess <Paul.Marquess@owmobility.com>
To: Samuel Bronson <naesten@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Samersoff <dms@samersoff.net>,
	vijay nag <vijunag@gmail.com>,
	"gdb@sourceware.org" <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: RE: collecting data from a coring process
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 16:41:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CY1PR0501MB117850CB88D6675A3162551395F90@CY1PR0501MB1178.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJYzjmf0a2Dd8XbOQaO3937Bcab1AW9gVp=r3mKSgUq_27G8ow@mail.gmail.com>

From: Samuel Bronson [mailto:naesten@gmail.com] 

 
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Paul Marquess <Paul.Marquess@owmobility.com> wrote:
> > From: Samuel Bronson [mailto:naesten@gmail.com]
> >
> >> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Paul Marquess <Paul.Marquess@owmobility.com> wrote:
> >> > From: Dmitry Samersoff [mailto:dms@samersoff.net]
> >> >
> >> >> Paul,
> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1) Why not dump the information that you are looking for into a 
> >> >> >> file in the process signal handler ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Would love to, but I have no idea what state the process is in 
> >> >> > once the SEGV has been triggered.
> >> [...]
> >> > I know we've had problems with signal handlers causing problems, thus my preference to find a way to have the signal handler code do as little as possible and get all the data collection handled at arm's length by gdb.
> >>
> >> You could just spawn (and wait for) your GDB-launching script from 
> >> the signal handler; then, the process & stack will still be around for GDB.  I think this is even legal!
> >
> > That's one of the approaches I'm thinking of. I need to check if the fork/exec & wait use malloc.
> 
> I think it should suffice for them to be "async-signal-safe "?  It looks like signal(7) documents which functions several 
> versions of POSIX require to be async-signal-safe, and it looks like there are two versions of exec*() on there as well 
> as fork() and wait().  Which is basically what I meant by "I think this is even legal!" :-).

I agree that "async-signal-safe " is something that needs to be considered, but it isn't the only thing. I've seen plenty of cores where corruption of a data structure inside malloc itself was the trigger for the SEGV. That's why I need to be sure that any code executed in the signal handler isn't going to blow up.

I've had success with a toy setup that checks if the following scenario will work.

I have a Parent process that spawns a Child process. The child process contains a deliberate SEGV error.

In the Child process I get the signal handler to send USR1 to the parent process, then send SIGSTOP to itself. Once the SIGSTOP is released I get the process to exit.

The Parent process has a handler to catch the USR1 signal. I use this to trigger the execution of gdb.  When I get gdb triggered it seems to be working fine -- stack is still present & I can access data structures. Exiting gdb must send a CONT to the process because it the child process then exits normally.

Still early days, but I like this approach because it means I only need to add a small amount of code in the signal handler of the coring process.

Paul


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-06 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-26  9:06 Paul Marquess
2016-08-26 12:01 ` vijay nag
2016-08-26 12:33   ` Paul Marquess
2016-08-28  7:48     ` Dmitry Samersoff
2016-09-05 11:10       ` Paul Marquess
2016-09-05 22:17         ` Samuel Bronson
2016-09-05 23:19           ` Paul Marquess
     [not found]             ` <CAJYzjmf0a2Dd8XbOQaO3937Bcab1AW9gVp=r3mKSgUq_27G8ow@mail.gmail.com>
2016-09-06 16:41               ` Paul Marquess [this message]
2016-09-07 19:22                 ` Samuel Bronson
2016-09-07 22:10                   ` Paul Marquess
     [not found]         ` <d327752e-89f6-c5a3-6d72-4789b106e1f6@samersoff.net>
2016-09-08 17:12           ` Paul Marquess
2016-09-01  4:23     ` David Niklas
2016-09-05 10:59       ` Paul Marquess

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