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Right now > > gcc is easyhack while gdb uses good-first-bug. Both have issues with > > the naming of each. > > So I was thinking of a good name and came up with beginner-improvement = . > > > > I know this is all bikeshedding but in this case since the 2 projects > > right now use different naming we have a good chance to come up with a > > good name in the first place. > > beginner-improvement has a few advantages, first it is about being a > > beginner to the project. How long someone can be a beginner is up to > > them; it does not need to be their first issue solving. And the idea > > of an issue being easy is also left behind; some of them might not > > actually be "easy" but a beginner can still solve it. > > Plus in many cases it is not exactly a bug but rather than an > > improvement that needs to be done so this new name removes that side > > of things. > > > > > > So in summary, beginner-improvement is my proposal for the new keyword. > > > > Thanks, > > Andrew Pinski > > Personally I'm fine with beginner-improvement. Would we need to go > hunting for the old names to do the mass updates? You can rename keywords in bugzilla so there is not much to do except renam= e it. But it seems the consensus at this point of time is `good-first-issue` which I guess I am ok with too. I will wait a few more days before declaring a consensus. Thanks, Andrew