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Eigler" , Overseers mailing list , Mark Wielaard , Joseph Myers , gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Ian Lance Taylor via Gdb Reply-To: Ian Lance Taylor Errors-To: gdb-bounces+public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 2:32=E2=80=AFAM Richard Earnshaw (lists) via Gcc wrote: > > I've been forced to use gerrit occasionally. I hate it. No, I LOATHE it= . The UI is anything but intuitive with features hidden behind unobvious s= elections. IMO It's not a tool for a casual developer, which makes it a ba= d introduction to developing software. I would be shocked if GCC ever adopted Gerrit. But I don't understand this objection. Yes, Gerrit is not a tool for a casual developer. But so what? Casual developers don't have to use it, except that they have to run a particular git command to submit a patch. It's the GCC maintainers who have to use Gerrit. Ian