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Wed, 28 May 2025 00:32:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0bfd51f7-2246-475c-b171-8dde8474227a@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 09:33:09 +0200 X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFu7h0k32639tyBDzwmPM-clj_PZpQ8XYlh49_QJAbCRyjA35a9XDwiSFT0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Improve GDB's first user experience by reducing "print_gdb_version" output To: psmith@gnu.org Cc: Guinevere Larsen , "gdb@sourceware.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Phi Debian via Gdb Reply-To: Phi Debian Errors-To: gdb-bounces~public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" FWIW lldb produce nothing $ lldb ./hw (lldb) target create "./hw" Current executable set to '/tmp/hw' (x86_64). (lldb) One could argue LLVM series is not GNU yet GCC don't produce nothing either (even with -v) $ gcc -o hw hw.c $ Both gdb and gcc produce the COPYRIGHT in their man(1) which IMHO is good enough. Why gdb and gcc diverge is a mystery to me. The proposed minimal greeting is nice, or can be push further with no greeting at all (like lldb) assuming gdb --help or man gdb would be the starting point leading to apropos... Many options are possible, but the very verbose one seems outdated to me, even emacs don't through copyright things at start up.