From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 96641 invoked by alias); 5 Feb 2018 21:56:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 96142 invoked by uid 89); 5 Feb 2018 21:56:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_RED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy= X-Spam-User: qpsmtpd, 2 recipients X-HELO: mail-qk0-f180.google.com Received: from mail-qk0-f180.google.com (HELO mail-qk0-f180.google.com) (209.85.220.180) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 21:56:46 +0000 Received: by mail-qk0-f180.google.com with SMTP id y204so343097qkb.10; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 13:56:46 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gL6tIqfD79AZziaz04ajpPhoaK/BUXc+L7Ow9+0fMdI=; b=nOYq10m1hvbuupwW1aWyrDXOqonxGu5i+rKJWBDlL2H4XvlAMr/eHJkPkm3P1eI/8/ UeTjsy8uww9qOEXvGO5hrAo0LEiMfLQa9ZbYy9yqdxBdjSr91114FINPxQBcTQGt3raY IjbMEgREuVZAsIgtXh5N4ks5GvZzF/MxKuRbBuGESRE74BtYzEZA/lp7RluFNY24htmZ ovRCpCdUhYohgYzfkivipi1V633Dvh0BDNRPHOxuomPMQ4wezSHVkI4X0P2eE+EFu0P/ Djp8sZsLdeMckKzc4IOQ+gGqp2RxQiCBtx0BvG2ZMukt3jpGQIbeB5GrCZeok8hOqIuo l/UA== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDFjPaL8JzbRqteDEL3x/HakGbBtt2WJwsGkzMIl80iDBt9sil/ /jYS7ZxEhB3DyuHQDz5iXF/xCtmkHVs27ngCOZc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225XVkSnOugdIHOqojF0Xpo1iT/43gv0k/RDYIkeUlj5jg7TziV8IYfOuNtsgAdXqOW1tl2Sca8zKKhG2oAv6ag= X-Received: by 10.55.88.68 with SMTP id m65mr425262qkb.186.1517867804968; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 13:56:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.153.232 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2018 13:56:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Yao Qi Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 21:56:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stop updating ChangeLog? To: Joseph Myers Cc: GDB , GDB Patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2018-02/txt/msg00039.txt.bz2 On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Joseph Myers wrot= e: > On Mon, 5 Feb 2018, Yao Qi wrote: > >> P.S. I found that this topic has been discussed several times in >> various projects (binutils, glibc, etc) without any conclusions. I do >> hope we can make some progress this time :) > > All those places are the wrong place for actually effecting any change > other than (c) (generating ChangeLog files at release time having been > permitted by the GNU Coding Standards for over 20 years). > > The correct place for discussion of whether the ChangeLog format is useful > generically for GNU projects is the bug-standards list, continuing the > discussion that has been going on intermittently since I started it on 28 > July last year. If that discussion results in a GCS change along the > lines I proposed (that is, removing the requirement for ChangeLog format), > then individual projects can consider what commit log format is most > useful for them. > Joseph, The format of ChangLog entry is out of the scope of this discussion. IMO, each project is free to choose whether to write changelog entry or not (either in commit log or ChangeLog file). Some GNU projects have ChangeLog files, some don't. This discussion is about how much do we need changelog in GDB. To me, changelog are not useful, so the changelog format isn't interesting to me. --=20 Yao (=E9=BD=90=E5=B0=A7)