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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: NightStrike via Gdb Reply-To: NightStrike Errors-To: gdb-bounces+public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 7:55=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Arsen Arsenovi=C4=87 > > I've, for a long time, avoided contributing to projects with 'legal > > routine' requirements (DCO included) due to the implications of sharing > > real names. > > There's no need to share a real name. The assignments on file have > quite a few names that are withheld, with only a pseudonym on file. > This is a non-issue, for all practical purposes. And, as you point > out, using DCOs doesn't change this aspect in any way. Is this really true? I was denied being able to work on GCC for this reason (many years ago, before DCO), because I refused to reveal my PII. I pointed out that a real-sounding fake name is no better than a fake-sounding fake name, which eventually led to someone (I think Ian) explaining that sharing your name is only the first step in validating someone's identity. I never pursued it further. Can you please explain how copyright assignments are validated if you don't have to share your real name, as opposed to providing a real-sounding fake name? This one point has prevented my own contributions since 2008; I've limited myself to simply running tests and opening PR's.