From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16240 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 2011 16:38:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 15769 invoked by uid 22791); 11 Jul 2011 16:38:33 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from smtp-out.google.com (HELO smtp-out.google.com) (74.125.121.67) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:38:16 +0000 Received: from hpaq12.eem.corp.google.com (hpaq12.eem.corp.google.com [172.25.149.12]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id p6BGcFSv001344 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:38:15 -0700 Received: from gyc15 (gyc15.prod.google.com [10.243.49.143]) by hpaq12.eem.corp.google.com with ESMTP id p6BGavZG022409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:38:14 -0700 Received: by gyc15 with SMTP id 15so2035355gyc.24 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:38:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.47.19 with SMTP id z19mr1829583agj.45.1310402293508; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.8.9 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:38:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201107080344.p683iRUq024788@ignucius.se.axis.com> <201107080020.19357.vapier@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:38:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sim: using automake From: Doug Evans To: Tom Tromey Cc: Mike Frysinger , gdb@sourceware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-System-Of-Record: true X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2011-07/txt/msg00065.txt.bz2 On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Tom Tromey wrote: >>>>>> "Mike" =3D=3D Mike Frysinger writes: > > Mike> ive been bit by this multiple times, and it always seemed crazy to > Mike> me that we still do manual dependency management. =A0many of the > Mike> other sourceware projects have converted to automake and dropped > Mike> the hardcoded lists, so is there anything holding back the sim dir > Mike> other than someone doing it ? > > It seems like an improvement to me. "Well ..." I'd rather not make this transition without a bit more discussion. [I would prefer to avoid automake.] One question and one observation: Question: can automake handle dependencies on machine generated files? I think(!) the answer is "no", so automake doesn't solve all problems. Observation: gdb no longer manually describes dependencies (*1) yet it doesn't use automake. --- (*1): I realize it's more complicated than that, e.g. source files from sub= dirs.