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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: =?utf-8?q?Tomasz_K=C5=82oczko_via_Gdb?= Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?Tomasz_K=C5=82oczko?= Errors-To: gdb-bounces+public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 21:19, Eli Schwartz wrote: [..] > I think it's not entirely unreasonable for a project to internally place > its own demands on its own resources, with the knowledge of how much it > has in the way of resources... > For some reason LITERALLY only ONE git repo is treating that as DEMAND. No, I'm pointing to an INCORRECT/UNREALISTIC/causing some real issues on client side web server settings. > But yes, having a cache certainly helps. > > Rather, it is "having a cache is basic politeness unto others" So you suggest that I should start caching .. [tkloczko@pers-jacek SPECS]$ grep VCS:.*https://sourceware.org/git *spec | wc -l 8 of 4444 git repos because some wannabe-webmaster added a throttling module in the web server setup when NO ONE ELSE ANYWHERE is using such settings? Really?=F0=9F=A4=94 If "yes" I have no more questions. [..] > Refusing to use a cache is called executing a DDoS campaign. > In DDoS acronym first D stands for DISTRIBUTED. I'm using a SINGLE source IP. Reaching the throttling level is not equal to DENIAL of service. So that is the second D. 3rd .. do you really want to name ~0.5 req/s as realistic/justificable setup? How many people here are using web server reqs throttling and how many amongst them are using so LOW values? NONE?=F0=9F=A4=94 .. THREE misunderstandings/mistakes in ONE sentence. Thank you for suggestions of using some public buildbots on which I have no physical control. Even if I'll be using those buildbots (which I'm not going to waste my time because I have now WORKING build infra) execution of the same build procedure will cause the SAME RESULT. Do you see that now?=F0=9F=A4=94 Nevertheless I have enough HW resources. This off-topic part has NOTHING to do with using throttling settings in ONE cgit web frontend is YET another mistake/misunderstanding. As the old saying goes .. "the road to hell is paved with good advice". One more time: please focus on gdb and issues related to its build automation. kloczek