From: Paul Schlie <schlie@comcast.net>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
Cc: <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Available registers as a target property
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 04:54:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BEA1C21C.A130%schlie@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050507043029.GA29449@nevyn.them.org>
> From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
> On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 11:49:00PM -0400, Paul Schlie wrote:
>> Understood, but given that these semi-customizable synthesizable processors
>> still need to have their configurations described to multiple tools, it
>> still seems that adopting a more centralized specification scheme which
>> enables their configuration descriptions to be more conveniently accessible
>> by whatever tools may choose to leverage them seems like a good thing; as
>> opposed to having creating discrete depositories/methods unique to each
>> tool.
>>
>> Which is why potentially broadening the use of BFD's seemed potentially
>> reasonable, but do recognize it would correspondingly require broader
>> coordination which could complicate the effort beyond reason. So possibly
>> as the parameters required to sufficiently describe the logically visible
>> debug model of an arbitrarily configured processor subsystem becomes clear,
>> these same parameters could be considered to form the basis of a more
>> centralized target configuration description which may ultimately be
>> utilized by other tools.
>
> Personally I don't think it's very useful. I'm not sure why you call
> them "semi-customizable"; the point is that they are, in fact, fully
> customizable.
- actually arm "extensible architecture" is fairly rigid, and arguably
far less "customizable" than those offered by ARC or Tensilica for
example; and is likely best characterized as being extended via
co-processor extensions not an innate extension/customization of the
arm ISA or processor implementation core architecture itself.
> ARM's approach to this problem was to encapsulate the description
> in the module server, which is distributed with the target
> configuration. Anything that wants the configuration can query the
> target for it. That seems a lot more useful to me - rather than
> centralizing the registry, distribute it locally to every target it
> describes.
- so you propose that GNU tools adopt a reliance on a proprietary vendor
data base "module server" in order to configure tools to support that
vendors proprietary licensed architecture?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-07 4:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-06 22:46 Paul Schlie
2005-05-06 23:27 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-07 0:56 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-07 1:36 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-07 3:49 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-07 4:30 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-07 4:54 ` Paul Schlie [this message]
2005-05-07 5:41 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-07 15:19 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-07 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-06 17:55 Decker, Paul
2005-05-06 20:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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