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From: Martin Baulig <martin@gnome.org>
To: Momchil Velikov <velco@fadata.bg>
Cc: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Lifetime of local variables
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 05:42:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86y9frdb2x.fsf@einstein.home-of-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873cxzdcnd.fsf@fadata.bg>

Momchil Velikov <velco@fadata.bg> writes:

> I think ypu are mixing two different concepts here, the language
> notion of scope and the compiler/runtime notion of lifetime.  I guess
> the lifetime is of interest for a debugger.

Yes, I was mixing them up a bit.

However, my understanding of this was that for a debugger, "scope"
means where a variable actually exists (so it should be listed by
"info locals" and "print", possibly stating that it's address is
unknown) and "lifetime" means where a variable can be accessed,
ie. it's actually stored somewhere and it's address/register is known
to the debugger.

> > I want to use this to debug machine
> > generated IL code and the JIT may want to create local variables
> > on-the-fly. For variables which have actually been defined by a human
> > programmer, listing them and claiming that their value is no longer
> > available is IMHO the right thing to do - but I'd like to tell the
> > debugger to make a machine-generated variable disappear when it's no
> > longer used, otherwise you'd get a large number of automatic variables
> > (having numbers, not names, which makes it even more confusing to the
> > user) and only a very few of them are actually used.
> > 
> 
> One can use DT_AT_artificial to distinguish machine generated
> temporaries and the .debug_loc ranges to decide whether to display the
> variable.

What happens if you're outside any of the ranges listed in .debug_loc -
will the variable be listed or not or will this depend on DW_AT_artificial ?

IMHO variables which have been created by a human should always be
listed, but machine generated ones (since there can be a large number
of them) should only be listed withing their lifetime ranges.

-- 
Martin Baulig
martin@gnome.org


  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-13 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-12 16:18 Martin Baulig
2002-04-12 16:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-13  4:35   ` Martin Baulig
2002-04-13  5:08     ` Momchil Velikov
2002-04-13  5:42       ` Martin Baulig [this message]
2002-04-13 11:32     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-13 12:53       ` Martin Baulig
2002-04-13 12:59         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-13 13:10         ` Momchil Velikov
2002-04-16  5:56 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-16  6:15 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-16 15:07 ` Jim Blandy

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