From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id Scq6DJ+LcGaYVTsAWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:16:47 -0400 Authentication-Results: simark.ca; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=C4AYj9F+; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id 252C71E0C1; Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (server2.sourceware.org [8.43.85.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CA141E092 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CBD388210A for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2024 19:16:44 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 47CBD388210A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sourceware.org; s=default; t=1718651804; bh=5PdCoiQf2rQsLZ6PRb/Y+jLjYCCrHIIofXx08ydPYwI=; h=To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From:Reply-To:From; b=C4AYj9F+ugikdKmdCv7LFZWvF2WNoWST7kCrQMns2GpN9SC30l3EYv/ptjZlnniVO mTzLmcfxdgjvOSFzRSyZQca+Gbe9oeUaMXN+rMdUul1DswdzATdT+IboFaBuGY21oC fK+adxlqP8YZyYWyFS5xWDaKA8+U+QjeQACSoXBc= Received: from mout-p-103.mailbox.org (mout-p-103.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:0:465::103]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EA6C3858C50; Mon, 17 Jun 2024 19:16:04 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 8EA6C3858C50 ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 8EA6C3858C50 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1718651766; cv=none; b=JqBtRi0IfEyQ+WxsKoRow9MtULi23ZJKe1IyFijpl/labMd1Tqo/Lopjk+Ywart22FdwnEy0pH8PjqZj6QfcNi91wBRLl5IbFDFvpUoACFgg8rghpN+DBIpoqFXUiI/+vWa5gPrpA/IWMrXvK+23OrhrGTCwE6PULLbmA1OpRIg= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1718651766; c=relaxed/simple; bh=1D0fax3VT5FR+nG4TC/Ab8oE0DI2ji7suyWy7RFmOlk=; h=DKIM-Signature:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=pIU+rFIw8DNOyTgzmvl+Ig4rK4olWiNegCbfu89tYCLXHD/m7wCtkIbvger2+hHegaipeIXOwY3Vch176qLA0oG4uz/jWcw+fz16uYa+GW21u3ZbjgOpEITQHe/dRW7ecNhQCzlQH9LZ8xKQ3N9M5y66EUeK5vzMPh29lPgNuhs= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org Received: from smtp102.mailbox.org (smtp102.mailbox.org [10.196.197.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-103.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4W303P4xB1z9sV8; Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:16:01 +0200 (CEST) To: Guinevere Larsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , pinskia@gmail.com, gdb@sourceware.org, binutils@sourceware.org Subject: Re: DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb In-Reply-To: <0bd8f510-8782-4052-880c-39232e69b432@redhat.com> (Guinevere Larsen's message of "Mon, 17 Jun 2024 13:37:56 -0300") References: <86538dac-6c3a-4b9e-9de9-3906e645fa4d@redhat.com> <86sexbr0mb.fsf@gnu.org> <0bd8f510-8782-4052-880c-39232e69b432@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:15:58 +0200 Message-ID: <86tthrs7m9.fsf@aarsen.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, KAM_INFOUSMEBIZ, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: =?utf-8?q?Arsen_Arsenovi=C4=87_via_Gdb?= Reply-To: =?utf-8?Q?Arsen_Arsenovi=C4=87?= Errors-To: gdb-bounces+public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guinevere Larsen writes: > I know of 2 people who decided to not contribute to GDB as soon as I ment= ioned > that there was a copyright process. > > I also know of one person who I know was be a one off contributor (strage= r, who > made a contribution just to make a video on how easy it is to contribute = to > open source projects). And saying we don't have them is a chicken and egg > problem to me... could it be that we don't have them specifically because= the > process is so hostile to this type of contribution? I know some people who refuse to contribute due to this also. Many don't trust the FSF, many don't want to reveal information, many do not see the difference between the FSF copyright process and a CLA (except that the latter is often easier to process..). I understand there are good reasons for copyright assignment to the FSF, but the FSF seems to be considered less trustworthy nowadays, and this is reflected in the likelihood of (even relatively experienced!) free software contributors signing over copyright. I've, for a long time, avoided contributing to projects with 'legal routine' requirements (DCO included) due to the implications of sharing real names. (NOTE: I have copyright assignments on file and might file more ahead-of-time to avoid sinking time every time I contribute to a new project. It has not stopped me, but it /has/ others. I can completely understand those people also) =2D-=20 Arsen Arsenovi=C4=87 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iOYEARYKAI4WIQT+4rPRE/wAoxYtYGFSwpQwHqLEkwUCZnCLbl8UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0RkVF MkIzRDExM0ZDMDBBMzE2MkQ2MDYxNTJDMjk0MzAxRUEyQzQ5MxAcYXJzZW5AYWFy c2VuLm1lAAoJEFLClDAeosSTqdsA/2krVCyXsi1sBMcMF8OPmUAGuscH2cetXO/w dFl8lGeHAP9Zf/AnZFwEjGub+Vtu691GVo2+KvqOURR/JqH/IOrgCw== =F/Nr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--