From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id p+UCCi5thmdQyg4AWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:57:02 -0500 Authentication-Results: simark.ca; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=mC9Xy5bk; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id 11D6A1E100; Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:57:02 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on simark.ca X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=ARC_SIGNED,ARC_VALID,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from server2.sourceware.org (server2.sourceware.org [8.43.85.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB2771E08E for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5804A3856DFA for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2025 13:57:00 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 5804A3856DFA DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sourceware.org; s=default; t=1736863020; bh=nSfF4QkGKpk9Zn4q3lVsh3xhdsQqDZCtnGU86BD2Y8k=; h=Date:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Subject:References:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From:Reply-To:From; b=mC9Xy5bkafLj7IvioLxvk6qkD8v4vvTaIfb4+8X5EXwHyqvu2lUJI/6/ZJDr/8Rg8 chvZC7b0ZnZ5pfoMJXErSV12ghslRMWEk+ejcZKZk85dY4l9Xj1H7Jm/bErB+EKg0V wz+OXSZ5/gCxcmsIo3m2twgOte/vUUc3kNL2Fxs8= Received: from eggs.gnu.org (eggs.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142:3::10]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33782385AC3E for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2025 13:56:16 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 33782385AC3E ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 33782385AC3E ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1736862976; cv=none; b=w4uQ1t2zis8bWI9NeHSx1PblnAKP9l3f2wkPNYZv/TiOsQJNoqCeDHJvlpr/CfXHvKxs63v3JjzhnvAfxDi47yWcZd275H3NTkE+3NIUOxr7Zqfq4T2I/xx7T8Zw4E0g/et+Zcan521afhF4ky/L3WK3MvOd7EUcwurtxlripsc= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1736862976; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Rh93XAA39S/VR1mcfAH1Kd0ECDSXqCcEyjOPcYSOVf4=; h=DKIM-Signature:Date:Message-Id:From:To:Subject; b=oGCEUKjy3V289lIaoZ57erMKTML6+m7Tc2A/JiQog4Jez3u3zPP85DGR4nNYMr0o9vmJP2sJc1IqDLCeQOOaMBldMZUkcev6all1e8/E7y+lSN/r016uryCjTxcP1PuASrCAm4tY/viB0p/y/3O4oEPYs1hhzs7nMcEmQf80yT8= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 33782385AC3E Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tXhOw-0002Bd-9T; Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:56:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 15:56:02 +0200 Message-Id: <86msftts7h.fsf@gnu.org> To: Luis Machado Cc: aburgess@redhat.com, tom@tromey.com, blarsen@redhat.com, pinskia@gmail.com, gdb@sourceware.org, pedro@palves.net, nickc@redhat.com In-Reply-To: <00ba936a-6aa9-4d1d-8b1a-b5459b696289@arm.com> (message from Luis Machado on Tue, 14 Jan 2025 09:49:34 +0000) Subject: Re: DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb References: <86538dac-6c3a-4b9e-9de9-3906e645fa4d@redhat.com> <87y16vwbzl.fsf@tromey.com> <74c8b867-f5bb-48f7-9849-11d06e63a3d7@arm.com> <87tta2r5z2.fsf@redhat.com> <00ba936a-6aa9-4d1d-8b1a-b5459b696289@arm.com> X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Eli Zaretskii via Gdb Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: gdb-bounces~public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 09:49:34 +0000 > Cc: Andrew Pinski , GDB Development , > Eli Zaretskii , Pedro Alves , > Nick Clifton > From: Luis Machado > > Also, I've seen DCO's being sold partially as a mechanism that doesn't require > contributors to share personal information, due to privacy concerns. I don't > think that is true from my reading of it, given we absolutely need to know > how to reach out to the contributor/employer of the contributor in case the > need arises. And that is not even considering things like the contributor > passing away, disappearing etc. The CA mechanism also has provision for keeping some details (including even the actual name of the contributor) private, not exposed in the assignments DB. You can see some of that in the DB right now: some people have their names withheld. So this is not an argument in favor of DCO. > Has this ever been discussed at a higher level across global maintainers of the > other projects? Yes. There was a big discussion on libs-alpha: https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2021-June/127581.html and on the Gnulib list: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2021-06/msg00079.html and an almost-simultaneous discussion of gnu-prog-discuss: https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/private/gnu-prog-discuss/2021q2/016757.html Some people made really good points there. For example, check out these messages from Paul Smith (the GNU Make maintainer): https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2021-06/msg00085.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2021-06/msg00095.html