From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id oeDPNwD4NmiiwzcAWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 28 May 2025 07:48:16 -0400 Authentication-Results: simark.ca; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=X9MKGvP3; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id D20D01E11C; Wed, 28 May 2025 07:48:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on simark.ca X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.1 required=5.0 tests=ARC_SIGNED,ARC_VALID,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Received: from server2.sourceware.org (server2.sourceware.org [8.43.85.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 566621E102 for ; Wed, 28 May 2025 07:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CD43857733 for ; Wed, 28 May 2025 11:48:15 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org E9CD43857733 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sourceware.org; s=default; t=1748432896; bh=4GuQhAGb2ZOHQP07cj68sEN3L21Pc2hOSazsJItud/c=; h=Date:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Subject:References:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From:Reply-To:From; b=X9MKGvP3HaXvY8hjYc+AF+Rd8NquRxIscH5UHeyxCj2FTdZQIH2DgscOVKP5yvEG9 mmCisCnG/DI+yzsXo9nw1MgPodo1MDGpuee2zj5LlLVaMJGDti9DqX44UXk1bxoTe1 o3ltWrlnkLM2LN9tB0bcS7DXZBH2bR6Hp78V8VpY= Received: from eggs.gnu.org (eggs.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142:3::10]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2717F3858D32 for ; Wed, 28 May 2025 11:47:25 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 2717F3858D32 ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 2717F3858D32 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1748432845; cv=none; b=ORfBrE2WQF2VFxV6FdA77FIf2WZjQYvlsj2802j3kiMnnzXt/I9lXvASLjGak5x99OOkg8xjESPHeBSSdA74BGYDXeebj3BQgvic9leqINSWEWhiLzWtUZK7p7wUq9vI/jZ4ThUiCyf6gci81EYloVG7xRLGMwGGo36apzeB6a4= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1748432845; c=relaxed/simple; bh=SxpsvmutBSsAigPGmZG/2BWCJxSVY9nAY3yHXYeIQR4=; h=DKIM-Signature:Date:Message-Id:From:To:Subject; b=VTrAU3LXbJS6DORh+gS8z8djRnXGtlqiEEsR5hwrXmIvjtF13dyzyAyCVZWgwvf6FNCSlo7dZ45DRwhPzoQ5oQZxhBC9u71MO3VVGrzgzWarelwbFkwRoGo8xFvt3Hzo0Q2Yn6IGTAtwmCDrD6yIlclSYMHQeNGdg4YS88+bTdM= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 2717F3858D32 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uKFFi-0007j0-2t; Wed, 28 May 2025 07:47:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 14:47:18 +0300 Message-Id: <86msaxvtx5.fsf@gnu.org> To: psmith@gnu.org Cc: guinevere@redhat.com, gdb@sourceware.org In-Reply-To: (message from Paul Smith via Gdb on Tue, 27 May 2025 17:38:57 -0400) Subject: Re: Improve GDB's first user experience by reducing "print_gdb_version" output References: <0bfd51f7-2246-475c-b171-8dde8474227a@redhat.com> X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Eli Zaretskii via Gdb Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: gdb-bounces~public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" > Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 17:38:57 -0400 > From: Paul Smith via Gdb > > On Tue, 2025-05-27 at 17:43 -0300, Guinevere Larsen via Gdb wrote: > > I'm sending this here in case there is some rule that forces us to > > write the copyright or free software status at initialization, before > > spending the time to turn this into a patch. > > I had remembered that interactive programs should generate copyright > information at startup, but the most I can find in the current GNU > Maintainer's manual is: > > > Sometimes a program has an overall copyright notice that refers to > > the whole program. It might be in the README file, or it might be > > displayed when the program starts up. This copyright notice should > > mention the year of completion of the most recent major version; it > > can mention years of completion of previous major versions, but that > > is optional. > > https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html#Copyright-Notices > > Which is a "might" not a "should" or "must". You can see an example in "emacs -q".