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From: Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org>
To: Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com
Cc: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>,
	 twall@oculustech.com, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: packing/unpacking 4-octet longs
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 10:11:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <854rn5fsix.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200112051645.QAA06737@cam-mail2.cambridge.arm.com>

Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com> writes:
> > > 0xaabbccdd is stored as 0xbb 0xaa 0xdd 0xcc.
> > I'm pretty sure that there is another very old wacko architecture
> > that did something similar to this, I'm trying to remember which.
> > pdp11?
> PDP11, I think.

Yes.  That ordering is sometimes called "PDP-endian" (incorrectly
in my opinion, since there are many different PDP architectures).

> It's a bit before my time, but IIRC it's because earlier PDPS (8?
> 9?) were 16-bit machines, so there wasn't really any concept of
> word-ordering beyond that: 16-bit words were little-endian, but the
> most significant word was always at the lowest address (or the other
> way around).

Not quite.  All earlier PDP architectures were word-adressable.  PDP-1
and PDP-4/7/9 had 18-bit words, PDP-5/8 had 12-bit words, and PDP-6/10
had 36-bit words.  I don't know if the other machines had multiple-word
operands, but the PDP-6/10 stored the most significant word first.

PDP-11 was the first 16-bit machine, and the first byte-addressable.

-- 
Lars Brinkhoff          http://lars.nocrew.org/     Linux, GCC, PDP-10
Brinkhoff Consulting    http://www.brinkhoff.se/    programming


  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-05 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-04  5:44 Timothy Wall
2001-12-05  8:26 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-05  8:46   ` Richard Earnshaw
2001-12-05 10:11     ` Lars Brinkhoff [this message]
2001-12-05 10:42     ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-06  2:03       ` Richard Earnshaw
2001-12-05  9:31   ` Timothy Wall
2001-12-05 10:03     ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-05 10:20       ` Timothy Wall
2001-12-05 10:49         ` Andrew Cagney

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