From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
Cc: gnu@toad.com, mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl, brobecker@adacore.com,
gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Time to expand "Program received signal" ?
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:58:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83vcd6shw7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50A55196.4090303@redhat.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:33:26 +0000
> From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
> CC: gnu@toad.com, mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl, brobecker@adacore.com,
> gdb@sourceware.org
>
> >>>> It makes no sense to me to have "thread apply all FOO" do nothing
> >>>> for non-threaded inferiors.
> >>>
> >>> No one said it should do nothing. "Main thread" implies there _is_ a
> >>> thread.
> >>
> >> Yes, and my point is, if people have no problem in calling these special
> >> cases single-threaded (where single implies more than zero), and if
> >> as you say, there _is_ a thread, then the discussion we're having
> >> of whether to say "Thread 1 received ..." is a bit silly.
> >
> > It's not silly, because these are two different use cases. In one use
> > case, the _user_ types a thread-related command. In the other, _GDB_
> > talks about threads in the context of a single-threaded program. The
> > former case cannot possibly cause user confusion, because it was the
> > user who mentioned threads in the first place.
> >
> >> Either we assume non-threaded == single-threaded, and admit that in
> >> that case non-threaded inferiors always have at least one thread, or
> >> we don't, and "thread apply all " should not apply to non-threaded
> >> inferiors. As you called it, it's a matter of self-consistency.
> >
> > The OP's concern was about the UI, not about GDB's own internal
> > consistency.
>
> But I'm talking about UI! "thread apply all" is a user command.
> If you'd expect "thread apply all bt" to produce a backtrace on a
> non-threaded inferior, wouldn't you say that's because there _is_ _a_
> thread in the inferior? And if so then that thread must have a number
> the user can refer to? And if so, what is the issue with always
> consistently telling the user the thread that got the signal?
> I can't honestly believe any real user would be confused by this.
We are talking about 2 different users here. One is who types "thread
apply all SOMETHING" -- this one evidently expects a single-threaded
program to behave as a threaded one with 1 thread. The other user is
who didn't type any thread-related commands, just had GDB print
Thread XYZ received signal SIGFOO
This one _might_ be confused.
> Oh well, I'm beginning to consider dropping the patch for now.
That was not my intent. I don't object to the patch.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-15 20:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-12 18:27 Pedro Alves
2012-11-13 16:25 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-11-13 16:40 ` Mark Kettenis
2012-11-13 17:22 ` Pedro Alves
2012-11-13 22:40 ` John Gilmore
2012-11-14 10:26 ` Pedro Alves
2012-11-14 19:54 ` John Gilmore
2012-11-15 10:36 ` Pedro Alves
2012-11-15 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-15 17:21 ` Pedro Alves
2012-11-15 17:51 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-11-15 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-15 18:27 ` Paul_Koning
2012-11-15 18:27 ` Pedro Alves
2012-11-15 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-15 20:33 ` Pedro Alves
2012-11-15 20:58 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-11-15 19:27 ` Tom Tromey
2012-11-15 22:21 ` John Gilmore
2012-11-15 22:27 ` Paul_Koning
2012-11-16 0:22 ` John Gilmore
2012-11-16 8:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-13 17:23 ` Joel Brobecker
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