From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id TnKYBCkFTWCiDAAAWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:32:09 -0500 Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id 063E11EF78; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:32:09 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on simark.ca X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from sourceware.org (server2.sourceware.org [8.43.85.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B12601E789 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:32:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2FC3857C70; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:32:07 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 0D2FC3857C70 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sourceware.org; s=default; t=1615660327; bh=4s5xTfeB7nVqJdG4O+akeyeBtJX4p+IdfNDANXuDE1c=; h=Date:To:In-Reply-To:Subject:References:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Cc: From; b=O4hJjc3QNJ0cFpyBLeCZlCWGbdktGZJrHU1EHGK0J1gFzuIOLl0JE3ZIE44h7RMdx BeqVJKX5cw1tUJGY+QdOd8JxSoFRrTbtNeqjlPdaJC66a6HPRFEtpEiHqUSkd82eYB DxGBON6lsLZEwo8RaUIO67m6T3T8YKcLLh4Cmv/U= Received: from eggs.gnu.org (eggs.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142:3::10]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B59FA3857C70 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:32:04 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org B59FA3857C70 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39421) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lL93T-0006I1-Id; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:32:03 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3147 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lL93R-0003xD-M3; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:32:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 20:32:06 +0200 Message-Id: <8335wyj461.fsf@gnu.org> To: Mike Frysinger In-Reply-To: (message from Mike Frysinger on Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:21:29 -0500) Subject: Re: sim: replacing ChangeLog files with online git logs References: <83ft0zjys1.fsf@gnu.org> <83lfarhwjq.fsf@gnu.org> <83eegjhuuq.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Eli Zaretskii via Gdb Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: gdb@sourceware.org Errors-To: gdb-bounces@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:21:29 -0500 > From: Mike Frysinger > Cc: gdb@sourceware.org, andrew.burgess@embecosm.com > > On 13 Mar 2021 18:38, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:26:11 -0500 > > > From: Mike Frysinger > > > Cc: gdb@sourceware.org, andrew.burgess@embecosm.com > > > > > > > So people who don't have Git will be left without the logs? I'm not > > > > sure I'm okay with that. > > > > > > what value are people actually pulling from these ? we aren't talking > > > about user-focused NEWS, we're talking about developer-focused ChangeLog. > > > > This has been beaten to death in various forums, including GNU > > internal ones. the conclusion was that some people want that, and > > some developers are not always on-line and with Git repo handy. > > the conclusion is that GNU standards made recommendations, but individual > projects can pick between them. That's a different conclusions. You asked what people are doing with the ChangeLogs, not whether it was mandatory to keep them. > > There's a Gnulib script which will produce the form that matches the > > ChangeLog format. > > there's actually multiple gnulib scripts. which one are you referring to ? > gitlog-to-changelog ? Yes, that one.