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From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@elta.co.il>
To: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>
Cc: pes@india.hp.com, jimb@redhat.com, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Tracepoint support in Cygnus GDB ?
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:46:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6654-Sat27Sep2003132618+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F72FF8C.3080104@redhat.com> (message from Andrew Cagney on Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:45:32 -0400)

> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:45:32 -0400
> From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>
> 
> > "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@elta.co.il> writes:
> > 
> >> > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:09:49 +0530
> >> > From: Saravanan <pes@india.hp.com>
> >> >   
> >> >   1. Why does GDB not provide this support for local
> >> >   host ?
> > 
> >> 
> >> Simple: because no one wrote tracepoints support for native
> >> debugging.
> > 
> > 
> > Right -- please contribute support for native tracepoints!
> 
> Just don't take Jim's request at face value :-)

On the contrary: please do ;-)

Seriously: as someone who earns his paycheck by writing and debugging
real-time software and teaching others to do so efficiently, a
debugger that can be used to run a real-time program without
completely disrupting it is something to kill for.  (Currently, use of
a debugger is limited to coredumps.)  If GDB were to support such a
feature, it would be a debugger of choice for many of my co-workers.

If done well, native tracepoints might make this possible.

> The thing to keep in mind is that GDB's development model is one of 
> constant incremental change - fix a structure here, move a method there, 
> oops just accidently fixed a 15 year old bug of not being able to return 
> small structs, ...

If this is supposed to be a gripe on the fact that no significant
user-level changes were added to GDB (except, perhaps, on GNU/Linux
systems), then I, too, am worried by that.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-27 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-24 10:40 Saravanan
2003-09-24 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-09-24 22:41   ` Jim Blandy
2003-09-25  4:02     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-25 21:44     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-27 15:46       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2003-09-27 17:49         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-27 18:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-09-27 18:48             ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-28  8:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-09-28 19:44                 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-28 21:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-09-28 21:30                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-29  5:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-09-29 14:48                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-28 22:25                     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-29  5:41                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-09-29 14:52                         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-29 15:07                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-10-01 21:49                           ` Features vs infrastructure (was Re: Tracepoint support in Cygnus GDB ?) Stan Shebs
2003-10-02  3:29                             ` Andrew Cagney
2003-10-02  3:47                               ` Stan Shebs
2003-10-02  5:31                                 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-10-02  6:42                                   ` Stan Shebs
2003-10-02  7:02                                     ` Joel Brobecker
2003-10-02 19:18                                       ` Andrew Cagney
2003-10-02  6:04                               ` Stan Shebs
2003-10-02  6:29                                 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-30  5:43           ` Tracepoint support in Cygnus GDB ? Jim Blandy
2003-09-30 21:14             ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-28 22:50 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-09-29  6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-09-29 13:21 Michael Elizabeth Chastain

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