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From: Sean Chen <sean.chen1234@gmail.com>
To: Jakob Engblom <jakob@virtutech.com>
Cc: Michael Snyder <msnyder@vmware.com>,
	paawan oza <paawan1982@yahoo.com>,  	Hui Zhu <teawater@gmail.com>,
	gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: porting reversible on arm/mips
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:35:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e81cb500912110835o3c26e0d8u605b84161a2b6100@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <008401ca7a3a$272f65f0$758e31d0$@com>

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Jakob Engblom <jakob@virtutech.com> wrote:
>> I was interested in the porting on ARM. But later I found that the
>> performance impact on ARM might damage the usage of process record. In
>> my experiment, reversible debugging is about 20000x slower, which
>> might be endurable on the modern computer. However, ARM target is tens
>> of times (or even more if we consider the memory) slower than PC. So
>> recording instructions will be very slow, about thousands of
>> instructions per second.
>
> I just must pitch in and say that it depends on the simulator.
>
> An advantage to using a full simulator is that you simplify the system and no
> longer have to care about OS calls: the OS is just part of the context you save
> and reverse.  So the overhead actually goes down compared to native prec.  I
> think a reversible ARM simulator can be made to run within a factor of ten of
> native speed, easily.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> /jakob
>
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The performance of reversible debugging with simulator build-in
support should not be so low. But if Oza means reversible debugging
with process record, performance will be the truth we have to face.

-- 
Best Regards,
Sean Chen


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-11 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-10  2:42 About the link to wiki in reversible.html Hui Zhu
2009-12-10  8:14 ` porting reversible on arm/mips paawan oza
2009-12-10 23:59   ` Michael Snyder
2009-12-11  2:10     ` paawan oza
2009-12-11  2:15       ` Hui Zhu
2009-12-11 13:03         ` paawan oza
2009-12-11 16:38           ` Sean Chen
2009-12-11  3:12       ` Michael Snyder
2009-12-11  3:48         ` Sean Chen
2009-12-11  8:16           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-12-11 13:24             ` paawan oza
2009-12-11 16:42               ` Sean Chen
2009-12-11 16:35             ` Sean Chen [this message]
2009-12-11 13:07         ` paawan oza
2009-12-11 18:50           ` Michael Snyder
2009-12-11 19:04             ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2009-12-11 19:14               ` Michael Snyder
2009-12-11 19:37                 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2009-12-12  3:28             ` paawan oza
2009-12-14 15:42               ` paawan oza
2009-12-14 18:27                 ` Michael Snyder
2009-12-10  8:15 ` About the link to wiki in reversible.html Joel Brobecker
2010-03-20  9:28 porting reversible on arm/mips paawan oza
2010-03-22  4:30 ` Sean Chen
2010-03-22 12:31   ` Joseph S. Myers
2010-03-22 14:08     ` paawan oza

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