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In-Reply-To: <87ecibxqyf.fsf@gmail.com> X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-MFC-PROC-ID: E9YJYfA6k8pExXqxjXUbzBaSCcB-dF9mV3EBz92IL_M_1781558241 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Carlos O'Donell via Gdb Reply-To: Carlos O'Donell Errors-To: gdb-bounces~public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" On 6/12/26 7:46 PM, Collin Funk wrote: > Adhemerval Zanella Netto writes: > >> gnulib guys seem to be experimenting with LLM for patch review recently [1], >> and it has uncovered real regressions [2]. And I recall that their >> experience with Coverity has been subpar [3], and I think they even started >> disregarding it. >> >> Personally, I see value in adding an LLM to the patch review phase, especially >> since we lack manpower and initial triage can help newcomers and uncover some >> issues. > > I don't have access to Gnulib's coverity, but GNU coreutils shows a lot > of Gnulib stuff anyways. My feeling is that it is useful, but one has to > do some work to filter out perfectly legitimate code (e.g., the coverity > machine complains about type limit comparisons which may be different on > less common platforms). Agreed. That's generally been the case with glibc too. > I don't disagree that LLM review is useful. However, I do want to state > my *personal* opinions here as I did in that Gnulib thread. Anthropic > (and OpenAI, which has a similar program) tend to play this program up > to show how altruistic and great they are. However, the 6 month limit > makes it seem like a strategic plan to gain future subscribers. > Obviously, I understand their employees have to eat. They should > absolutely ban users abusing generosity. However, it feels a bit shitty > given that their models would be relatively useless if they could not > train on and then regurgitate, likely violating licenses, free software > written by maintainers that they claim to be doing favors for. I agree. This feeling is real and it sucks. If anything in the face of LLMs I want to double down on actively mentoring more developers to FOSS development. See my comments here: https://fosstodon.org/@codonell/116743112568763059 -- Cheers, Carlos.